Pokemon X & Y (October 2013 on 3DS) - [Now out! Go out and play it already]

[Autosaver]

Uhh...I may have stopped playing the games at Gen 4, but I never had a instance where I was "to stocked up" on to many healing items (especially hyper potions and max revives), and in fact I had to use them sparingly to get through the Pokemon League Elite Four and what not, so I honestly don't understand this complaint at all really.

1) You can NOT buy Max Revives in ANY of the games. Revives on the other hand are incredibly cheap.

2) Hyper potions are cheap, Max Potions/Full Restores on the other hand a little more costly.

 

If you didn't have a billion dollars at the Elite Four, you must have passed up on a ton of trainers. Having tons of items available to pick up, tons of money thrown at you, amulet coin + mother savings, etc really gives you a huge advantage.

[Soniman]

1) You can NOT buy Max Revives in ANY of the games. Revives on the other hand are incredibly cheap.

2) Hyper potions are cheap, Max Potions/Full Restores on the other hand a little more costly.

 

If you didn't have a billion dollars at the Elite Four, you must have passed up on a ton of trainers. Having tons of items available to pick up, tons of money thrown at you, amulet coin + mother savings, etc really gives you a huge advantage.

 

Im pretty sure I played the games right, just because you have a decent number of restorative items doesn't mean a lot of the more powerful Pokemon trainers like the Elite Four and some late Gym Leaders aren't still going to give you a hard time.

[Sami]

I always spent more money on Pokeball's and... I don't really know. I mean, I'm always pretty well stocked, but I've gotten plenty of challenge out of SoulSilver's gym leaders.

[Tara]

Last time I played Black, I had already maxed out my repel, hyper potion, and revive slots.  So yes, I definitely wouldn't mind seeing a more challenging economy in the game.  That being said, the accessibility of items isn't the only thing that makes the games easy.  I don't think the AI has improved much since the first generation, and maybe I'm just playing it wrong, but the movesets only ever seem to range from "miniscule attack that does little damage" to "mega, ultra powerful death blow."  Grimsely and Caitlin were considerably easy to beat with Sawk (using "Double Kick" and "Brick Break" throughout much of the battle) even when it's almost ten whole levels lower.

Edited February 23, 2013 by Akito

[Gabz Girl]

Slightly off topic: Opinion on three starters? Fennekin is the best (just hope it's not fire/fighting)! Yveltal is awesome so it's game Y for me, and Sylveon is probably a Normal type female version of another Eeevelution that we haven't seen yet. Now that's out of the way...

 

I'm never overstocked on items in any of the games, ever. I've always had consistently about 10-15 Hyper Potions and Revives. I've never gone over that limit, seriously. XD  

Edited February 25, 2013 by Gabz Girl

[Your Vest Friend]

1) You can NOT buy Max Revives in ANY of the games. Revives on the other hand are incredibly cheap.

 

Correction; You can buy one a day in Pokemon Black/White 2 if you level up the mart in your Join Avenue to a high enough level. 

[Tori Himemiya]

Ehhhhh.....

For once the starters are meh to me. I just hope they evolve into something bad ass to make it up.

[Celestia]

I tend to have a lot of money by the end of the game since I don't generally buy too many items. I then end up buying more hyper potions than I'll probably need just before facing the Elite Four/Champion, heh. Maybe just have trainers give less money?? Except for the rich trainer classes at least.

 

I do think making the game more difficult would be nice ... or at least give an option for a challenge mode right at the beginning, perhaps making it a bit more complex than BW2 which generally just increased levels, gave some gym leaders another Pokemon or two, and that was about it. I'm really hoping for gym leaders that have a full team, too, at LEAST by the last gym if not the fifth or so. Seriously, Drayden, only three (a whooping four in Challenge Mode!! whoa!!!!) Pokemon? Seriously?

[SenEDDtor Missile]

I tend to have a lot of money by the end of the game since I don't generally buy too many items. I then end up buying more hyper potions than I'll probably need just before facing the Elite Four/Champion, heh. Maybe just have trainers give less money?? Except for the rich trainer classes at least.

 

I do think making the game more difficult would be nice ... or at least give an option for a challenge mode right at the beginning, perhaps making it a bit more complex than BW2 which generally just increased levels, gave some gym leaders another Pokemon or two, and that was about it. I'm really hoping for gym leaders that have a full team, too, at LEAST by the last gym if not the fifth or so. Seriously, Drayden, only three (a whooping four in Challenge Mode!! whoa!!!!) Pokemon? Seriously?

 

Yeah, kinda seems like Gym Leader roster have shrunken with each new generation.

[Kuzu]

I always give myself a bit of a selfimposed challenge on my playthroughs. I stock up on maybe 5-7 potions and revives and use them only when I need to, otherwise I just keep grinding.

[-Robin-]

I just checked my Trainer Card in Black 2 and found that I have over 600000 in Poke Dollars.

That cash accrues quick if you don't pay attention.

Still, with the series repeatedly stressing the importance of Link Battles and battling real people with each game, it's a bit understandable that the in-game details appear to be pretty lax, generous, and forgiving as far as difficulty is concerned. The essential goal of the game is to make a Pokemon team to fight other people with, so speedrunning or getting through the game with some degree of difficulty (such as being deprived of health restorative utilities) takes a backseat.

That said, I would like to see something to be done about it for X and Y, if only for the sake of variety. Maybe a difficulty option as you start a new file, akin to Fire Emblem's Classic/Casual split seen in recent installments.

Edited February 25, 2013 by Gregor

[Blue Blood]

Slightly off topic: Opinion on three starters?

 

Froakie is my favourite of the bunch this time. He's adorable. Fennekin is quite possibly my favourite fire-type started though. The only one I don't like is Chespin. He looks more like the token electric rodent than a starter. And even if not a starter, I don't really like Sylveon. But somehow it does look better in-game than in the art, so we'll have to see. I love having Eeveelutions on my team, and would rather use a new one than one of the ones I've already used a billion times over.

[buba]

Slightly off topic: Opinion on three starters? Fennekin is the best (just hope it's not fire/fighting)! Yveltal is awesome so it's game Y for me, and Nympheon is probably a Normal type female version of another Eeevelution that we haven't seen yet. Now that's out of the way...

 

I'm never overstocked on items in any of the games, ever. I've always had consistently about 10-15 Hyper Potions and Revives. I've never gone over that limit, seriously. XD  

 

Like always the Fire starter was the one to caught my eye, I don't know why but it just clicked like Charmander and Torchic.

Chespin looks okay, not something extraordinary, it just looks goofy and that its a plus for me.

Froakie on another note its just... I don't know. He and Turtwig are the only starters that don't appeal me in any way.

Yvetal looks really, really cool. It is that type of Pokémon that I really like. Xerneas, not so much.

Sylveon seems to be the girly Pokémon that I always ignore until I use it for shits and giggles and start liking it.

 

They better start announcing more Pokémon, by this time when Black and White where announced we already knew about 5 or 6 Pokémon that weren't either starters or legendaries.

[Gabz Girl]

I just can't imagine Sylveon being any other type other than Normal. Flying is possible but...I just don't see it. If this is possibly a female version (too girly to be gender specific), then there must be a male version. There can't just be one Eeeveelution, there's always a duo.

[Sean]

Why is everyone thinking/wanting the new Eevee to be gender determined, that would be laaaame.

 

I like having girly-looking Pokemon be male on my team, it makes them seem more adorable I dunno.

[Your Vest Friend]

With a name like Sylveon, it definitely seems like a Flying type to me. Nymphs and Sylphs aren't all female. 

[buba]

Why is everyone thinking/wanting the new Eevee to be gender determined, that would be laaaame.

 

I like having girly-looking Pokemon be male on my team, it makes them seem more adorable I dunno.

 

Do you like my team? Only sexy ladies allowed.

[Soniman]

Im trying to not be an asshole, but I have to ask. Why the fuck do you have a Krikectune on your team?

[-Robin-]

Female Steelix have only one pair of bottom mouth ridges/fangs though. :V

That reminds me though, gender differences were really hyped up in Gen IV, yet only Unfeazant and the Frillish family have gender differences among Gen V Pokemon. Makes me wonder if we'll see any more gender differences in Gen VI.

[Blue Blood]

I hope so. And I'd actually like it if they retroactively added more gender differences. The differences are minute most of the time and they already did it in Gen IV. It's a nice touch.

[LATER BUDDY]

Yeah I think I'm gonna stick with Sylveon being normal type. To me, it looks the part, and for some reason bows and scarves and the like make me think of normal-type Pokemon in the Pokemon world (maybe due to Pink Bow in Gen 2 and Silk Scarf in the gens after for boosting normal types idk). I know it's reaching, but just seems like it to me haha. That card move was pretty cool though, I wonder if it has like a luck based effect of some sort.

[-Robin-]

That card move could be Trump Card, a move naturally learned by Eevee, who itself is one of three Pokemon that can learn it by level up.

Could be how it evolves into Sylveon too, similar to how Tangela evolves by leveling up while knowing Ancientpower.

[Cortez]

Do you like my team? Only sexy ladies allowed.

So fitt.

Lol female Mr. Mimes, that's only just occurred to me that that's a thing lol.

Also sign me up for the club who want Challenge mode available from the start please.

[Sonictrainer]

Time for rumors...again

 

First off, for those of you who screen capped the original thread, feel free to check my trip with that of the original. There have been multiple people posting as “Mr. XY’ lately, but I have not posted since the original thread.

 

Second of all, in the original thread I made this more clear, but my phrasing of the “main characters are named Jean and Jane, non-customizable” was meant to reference customizing their designs, not their names. Sorry for the confusion.

 

Anyway, I have compiled a list of all the New Pokemon I know of, about 80 or so of the 99. Some of them I have only heard about from fellow co-workers and second-hand sources, while others I have seen myself. Mainly, there’s a few “new line” Pokemon I have yet to see, or don’t have much information on, so there are some gaps left to fill. With New Evolutions and Baby Pokemon, there are also quite a few of them I’ve yet to see for myself, yet I have heard which Pokemon are obtaining them.

 

As I said before, this Generation has a large amount of New Evolutions and Baby Pokemon, while the New-Line Pokemon are less orthodox than previous Gens, bumping old Generational archetypes (there’s no real early-bird, rodent, or bug this time around) in favor of mostly new, or underused, type combinations.

 

There are a large amount of Old Pokemon present during the main campaign, the Regional Dex around 400 I believe including the New Pokemon. New Evolutions are, I believe, obtainable during the main campaign and not pushed towards the end like in Diamond and Pearl. On the note of Old Pokemon, Gen V Pokemon can be transfered over, although I do not know the exact mechanics of the transfer process.

 

Starters

Chespin Evo

-Grass Type

-Sharpens up, little whirligig on hood.

Chespin Final

-Grass/Flying Type

-“Mammalian Garchomp”, helicopter-based

 

Fennekin Evo

-Fire/Psychic Type

-Lotus-shaped ear fluffs

Fennekin Final

-Fire/Psychic Type

-Tail splits into lotus-shape as well, very majestic and Ninetales-like

 

Froakie Evo

-Water Type

-Grows a horn, gets larger and more cloud fluff.

Froakie Final

-Water

-Huge, horned frog with clouds covering its body.

 

Legendaries

Xerneas is a Psychic/Rock Type and Yveltal is a Flying/Ghost Type

 

The other legends are a "Diamond Tiger", a "Club Peacock", a "Spade T-Rex", and a "Heart Cobra".

 

New Lines

A ”Robo Mouse" Pokemon

Type: Electric/Steel 

Description: New Pikachu? Metallic mouse with computer mouse plug tail.

 

A "Straight-jacket Ghost" Pokemon

Type: Ghost/Steel

Description: Shadowy, creature with a roundish head, thin body. Has metallic chains wrapped around its chest resembling a straight-jacket.

 

A "White Feathered Dinosaur" Pokemon

Type: Ice/Rock

Description: One of the Fossil Pokemon I believe. Bipedal, and raptor like, with white feathers covering its body. Has on a feathery “mask” making it resemble an owl.

 

A "Red Feathered Dinosaur" Pokemon

-Type: Fire/Rock

-Description: Other Fossil Pokemon it seems. Has reddish-brown and black feathers, and a red comb on its head making it resemble a rooster.

 

A "Crystal Girl" Pokemon

-Type: Ice/Psychic

-Description: Magical girl creature sleeping in a magical looking crystal that’s floating

 

A "Music Ox" Pokemon

Type: Ground/Rock

Description: Very large, black-furred ox. It has large white, horns that resemble tubas “they open at the end”, and it has curled, white hair that looks like an old-fashioned powdered wig.

 

A "Bodyguard Gargoyle" Pokemon

Type: Dragon/Fighting

Description: Grayish, doggish gargoyle creature that’s very stout and tough looking. It has red patterns on its arms that look like tattoos, and little red earrings.

 

A ''Scent Dog'' Pokemon

Type: Normal

Description: Little, hound dog with a prominent nose. Probably the “plainest” of the New Pokemon.

 

A "Hunting Dog" (Evolution of the Scent Dog Pokemon)

Type: Normal

Description: Larger, with floppy ears covering its eyes, and an ever larger nose.

 

A "Trashcan Monster" Pokemon

Type: Poison/Steel).

Description: A Trashcan with leech-like mouth, looks “cartoony” as it bends in ways metal should not.

 

A Dumpster Monster (Evolution of the Trashcan Monster)

Type: Poison/Steel

Description: Dumpster (still “cartoony” though) with trash compactor mouth. Predatory relationship with previous pollution-based Pokemon I hear.

 

A "Black Bird Monk" Pokemon

Type: Fighting/Flying

Description: Small and little, with bowl-cut “hair” feathers, long nose, and black/white feathers. Has “glove” looking hand-feathers. Resembles a black/white monk outfit, or martial arts outfit.

 

Evolution of Black Bird Monk

Type: Fighting/Flying

Description: Larger, more crow-looking. I believe the line is inspired by Bruce Lee, because their appearance resembles the famous black/white outfit he’s known for.

 

A "Locust Ninja" Pokemon

Type: Bug/Dark

Description: Green and purple bipedal little bug, with its body resembling “ninja” armor a bit, with little scythe arms. Has under-bite with little teeth that stretch up past its head.

 

A "Locust Assassin" (Evolution of the Locust Ninja)

Type: Bug/Dark

Description: Looks more “ferocious”, with longer scythes, meaner face, and two sets of “underbite” teeth.

 

A Kangaroo

Type: Normal

Description: Resembles a peach-colored, little kangaroo. It looks like a normal one compared to Kangaskahn, and is much cuter. No pouch.

 

A Fighting Kangaroo (Evolution of the Kangaroo)

Type: Fighting/Normal

Description: Larger, and tougher looking. Has black spots around its eyes, and little black “armor pads” running down its tail. Instead of a pouch, has an x-shaped bandage on its stomach.

 

A "Blue Fishing Cat" Pokemon

Type: Water

Description: It’s a bluish wild cat with black spots, and its ears resemble fish-fins. Also has a curvy, hook-like tail.

 

A "Metallic Fishing Cat" (Evolution of the Blue Fishing Cat)

Type: Steel/Water

Description: Larger, leopard like. It has longer, curved talons, and a thin metal “rod” runs along its back, ending with a long, steel hooked tail.

 

A "Coconut Soldier" Pokemon

Type: Fire/Grass

Description: Has a coconut army helmet with a green palm on the top. Main body is roundish, red/green “camo” colored, and it’s got a protruding “cannon” mouth.

 

A "Guerrilla Coconut" (Evolution of the Coconut Soldier) 

Type: Grass/Fire

Description: Personally my favorite new design yet. Resembles first form, but now has a large bush surroundings its body, in addition to two sprouting out of its head, as if to camouflage itself.

 

A "Mud Pig" Pokemon

Type: Fighting/Ground

Description: Small, roundish bipedal warthog with a red Mohawk, and mud covering its pink body on its bottom half, making it look like it has on shorts.

 

The Evolution of the "Mud Pig"

Type: Fighting/Ground

Description: Larger, very muscular looking like a wrestler. Also has mud covering its face, looking like a mask, and prominent lips sticking out. Resembles Kinnikuman.

 

An "Ice Bug" Pokemon

Type: Bug/Ice

Description: Little, white caterpillar creature. Has white “cocoon” wrapped around its body like a snow jacket, including a part at its neck where two strands hang out like a scarf.

 

A "Stained Glass Moth" (Evolution of the Ice Bug)

Type: Bug/Ice

Description: White, pretty moth with striking, icy wings that are multi-colored and resemble stained-glass windows.

 

A "Melting Lizard" Pokemon

Type: Ground/Poison 

Description: Quadrupedal, fat little lizard that’s orange with black patterns on it. It’s got oil substance falling out of its mouth, and little oil splotches around its feet.

 

Evolution of the "Melting Lizard"

Type: Ground/Poison

Description: Larger, and its whole body has a “dripping” look to it, like its falling off. It’s legs are “unseen”, as the art has it emerging from a pool of black oil. I think it can “melt” into it.

 

A "Star Creature Pseudo-Legend" Pokemon

Type: Dark/Electric

Description: Little yellow-black star-shaped creature, sort of dragon-like.

 

A"Planet Creature Pseudo-Legend (1st Evolution of the Star Creature Pseudo-Legend) 

Type: Dark/Electric Evolution.

Description: Very spherical, planet-like with yellow “saturn” ring around body.

 

A "Black Hole Creature Pseudo-Legend" (Final Evolution of the Star Creature Pseudo-Legend)

Type: Dark/Electric

Description: Humanoid, with vortex patterns on its body that swirl inward. Line seems to be based on “star life cycle”. Presumably Pseudo, as they come before Legendaries it seems.

 

A "Clover Dragon" Pokemon

Type: Dragon/Grass

Description: Small, bipedal yellow “European” dragon with green wings and tail. Its wings have little clover leafs on them.

 

The "Clover Dragon's 1st Evolution"

Type: Dragon/Grass

Description: Larger, slightly more serpentine, with more clover leaves on it. Has four legs in addition to wings.

 

The "Clover Dragon's Final Evolution"

Type: Dragon/Grass/Dragon

Description: Very elongated, with multiple legs, two sets of wings, with clovers sprouting out over its body.

 

A "Ghost Jellyfish" Pokemon 

Type: Ghost/Water 

Description Weird, white “ghost sheet” jellyfish, with a little dark-blue body underneath.

 

A "Ghost Dolphin" (1st Evolution of the Ghost Jellyfish)

Type: Ghost/Water

Description: Still has the white ghost-sheet top, and dark-blue lower body, but resembles a dolphin more so.

 

A "Ghost Whale" (Final Evolution of the Ghost Jellyfish)

Type: Ghost/Water

Description: Resembles a killer whale, with the white ghost-sheet covering the front-part of its body, although there are holes in parts of it giving it the spots you see on an orca.

 

Hmm...

[Your Vest Friend]

...I think the legendaries based on the card suits made me completely doubt this.