Megathread Archie Sonic Main Discussion

[KittyNakajima]

What do you mean the ill treatment of Amy? She's been treated like a queen as of recent. She was nothing more than a background character most of the time, it's only recently that she's seemingly been upgraded to main cast status, and pretty involved main cast status at that...I mean hell the guys don't treat Tails with as much respect as Amy and he's been through it all from the beginning and paid his dues!

Amy is suddenly this badass the FF's can call on, taking on Jun-kun, going on solo missions with Sonic to Moebius, making Nack shake in his sexy hat and boots - I'd hardly call her treatment "ill".

People are just gonna bitch cuz they don't like the Sonic Sally pairing, or Sally in general for some reason. I don't get this hate, I don't get the people even more. This is Archie's Sonic -Archie's Sonic! It has always been/will be heavily focused on the SatAM characters and their own characters, Sonic and Sally pairing is pretty much their thing. I liken people who bitch about this to parents who go see a MA15 movie with their kids then complain to the censors board that their kids shouldn't watch that stuff - if ya don't like it, don't see it! Likewise the comis have always had Sonic and Sally romance, don't buy the comics if you're that against it. Go play the games and have your Sonic Amy romance, even though it'll never happen in game and I pray (to Odin) that a Sonic Amy relationship will never happen in the comics, it is just such a wrong pairing I can't begin to fathom why they'd want it to happen.

Oh and enough with the bitching about "soap opera, love triangle, blah blah blah" stuff. Seriously, how much drama romance stuff have we had recently? I seem to remember a great deal of (poorly drawn) action for the most part, and as much as I like the action it will get dull if that's all we ever have. A bit of character feelings, love, emotions can do alot for development of the characters and adds some interest to the stories other than "This issue see Sonic punch Eggman in the face....again. Next week See Sonic punch Eggman in the face...with his other fist".....although I guess it wouldn't be Eggman would it. Wonder when he's gonna show his ugly face with some (hopefully) evil and devious epic plot.

If you mean put front and center so she can be made an idiot out of, then yeah. I suppose she's been treated like a queen. Queen of the Idiots. And living punching bag, as per that recent issue. Knowing the writer, it won't be too long before she gets shuffled back into the deck of official characters and forgotten again, with what little character development she did get being reset/reconned.

And don't give me that tripe about there not being romantic drama in the comic. If it's not Sonic or Sally's love life, it's the lack of a dramatic love life of some one else that's being played out front and center or as a side plot - i.e. Bunnie and Antoine, or Julie-Su and Knuckles. Just happens the first example is the one that really grinds me gears, as neither seemed to have done much suitable growing without the lapse of convenient plothole thrown in for this supposed OTP, such as ranging from siblings who had previously shown a strong disinterest in ruling the kingdom doing an about turn face on the matter to a conveniently conceived democratic system taking away a significant amount of the burden of governing from said family. As for the other examples, they have such little baggage to them that it makes implausible to believe them as a couple, or wonder how they've lasted so long. Yeah, Bunnie and Antoine had that "breakup" which technically wasn't a breakup, but I wonder if the writer could even incorporate something serious that might strain their relationship, such as Bunnie's oft awareness of her enhanced mechanical limbs. And Knuckles and Julie-Su....I don't even get why those two are still together. It might just be me, but I've found Julie just incredibly worrisome/clingy towards Knux since the Enerjak saga, and since the writer has been rebooting the former's comic story to be more or less like his game counterpart, I figured it might make for an interesting bit to see how he grows as a character on his own as opposed to her being his hanger on.

Furthermore, I do not go out and buy every single issue of the comic, especially if I can't find a little compromise past the story. I've pretty much maintained that the art was the main draw for me, but even that can't save it if I find an issue/arc's storyline unbearable. I have not bought an issue since a little after the Enerjak Saga, and the most I'll be bothered to do concerning the comic is seek out the latest issue and skim through it at Midtown Comics. I've also said in a previous topic (about collecting Sonic merchandise) that even if it's Sonic, doesn't mean I'll buy it, especially if it's something I might be something I might not enjoy in the long run. I do have specific interests in keeping up with the storyline though, as both a potential collector for issues I do like as well as submitting a penciling portfolio, so yes. I think I can yak on about it as much as the next person.

...lol wall of text. That said. I've explained my reasons for why this has caught my ire. The end. Good day.

Edited November 18, 2010 by KittyNakajima

[The-Master-Board]

If you mean put front and center so she can be made an idiot out of, then yeah. I suppose she's been treated like a queen. Queen of the Idiots. And living punching bag, as per that recent issue. Knowing the writer, it won't be too long before she gets shuffled back into the deck of official characters and forgotten again, with what little character development she did get being reset/reconned.

And don't give me that tripe about there not being romantic drama in the comic. If it's not Sonic or Sally's love life, it's the lack of a dramatic love life of some one else that's being played out front and center or as a side plot - i.e. Bunnie and Antoine, or Julie-Su and Knuckles. Just happens the first example is the one that really grinds me gears, as neither seemed to have done much suitable growing without the lapse of convenient plothole thrown in for this supposed OTP, such as ranging from siblings who had previously shown a strong disinterest in ruling the kingdom doing an about turn face on the matter to a conveniently conceived democratic system taking away a significant amount of the burden of governing from said family. As for the other examples, they have such little baggage to them that it makes implausible to believe them as a couple, or wonder how they've lasted so long. Yeah, Bunnie and Antoine had that "breakup" which technically wasn't a breakup, but I wonder if the writer could even incorporate something serious that might strain their relationship, such as Bunnie's oft awareness of her enhanced mechanical limbs. And Knuckles and Julie-Su....I don't even get why those two are still together. It might just be me, but I've found Julie just incredibly worrisome/clingy towards Knux since the Enerjak saga, and since the writer has been rebooting the former's comic story to be more or less like his game counterpart, I figured it might make for an interesting bit to see how he grows as a character on his own as opposed to her being his hanger on.

Furthermore, I do not go out and buy every single issue of the comic, especially if I can't find a little compromise past the story. I've pretty much maintained that the art was the main draw for me, but even that can't save it if I find an issue/arc's storyline unbearable. I have not bought an issue since a little after the Enerjak Saga, and the most I'll be bothered to do concerning the comic is seek out the latest issue and skim through it at Midtown Comics. I've also said in a previous topic (about collecting Sonic merchandise) that even if it's Sonic, doesn't mean I'll buy it, especially if it's something I might be something I might not enjoy in the long run. I do have specific interests in keeping up with the storyline though, as both a potential collector for issues I do like as well as submitting a penciling portfolio, so yes. I think I can yak on about it as much as the next person.

...lol wall of text. That said. I've explained my reasons for why this has caught my ire. The end. Good day.

In the games what is Amy? Pretty much a clingy borderline psychotic stalker girlfriend wannabe of the main character. In the games her advances are always rejected by Sonic, yet in each game they continue the trend of her coming back for more "punishment" if you wanna use that word.

If you view the games as being the standard for the characters, as is with your Shadow comic portrayal argument, explain to me how her treatment in the games is any different than that of the comics? At least in the comics Amy gets to go toe to toe with bad guys and show off some of her toughness.

The only ill treatment of Amy I see in the comics is the possible tease-play of her getting with Sonic, and that is pretty much all her own fault as she is the one who is doing all the wanting, not Sonic playing games with her.

Now if this were to change how is that anywhere near being "in character"?? Please tell. In no way have the games, and I suspect will the games ever pair Sonic and Amy up as a couple, they will defintely string Amy along as that is her sole purpose as a character. So if a Sonic Amy relationship not happening is the "ill treatment" you speak of then it is highly hypocritical to say Shadow is OOC to his game counterpart yet bitch that Amy is treated badly when she is treated exactly like how she is in the games.

Besides your opinion on Sonic and Amy's relationship I see no other mistreatment towards Amy's character, she's getting page time, she's getting to kick butt, all I am hearing is bitching that Sonic and Amy aren't together - and I in no way see that as a valid argument that Amy is mistreated.

Anyway, if you don't even buy the comics then why have such an outcry about them? Who are the writers gonna listen to, people who consistantly buy their work or people who only buy an issue every year or so?

Sonic and Sally are obviously back together because it is wanted.

And from your post it seems as though you'd have the comic with no romance whatsoever, glad you don't have control over the thing cuz that would be one boooooring arsed comic. What's wrong with seeing some Bunnie and Antoine, seeing one character's feeling for another, a little love here and there? Julie-su is clingy towards Knuckles after he went Enerjak? Gee wonder why that would be, could it be perhaps that she cares for him and wants to be there for him even if he's acting standoffish and trying to be macho she cares and want him to know, plus she might've almost lost him, she'd wanna spend time with him after a scare like that. Do you actually understand human emotion, or are you one of Eggman's robots posting on here in disguise?

To me it seems like you want the comics devoid of any emotion at all, wow that would be fun.

Edited November 18, 2010 by The-Master-Board

[KittyNakajima]

In the games what is Amy? Pretty much a clingy borderline psychotic stalker girlfriend wannabe of the main character. In the games her advances are always rejected by Sonic, yet in each game they continue the trend of her coming back for more "punishment" if you wanna use that word.

If you view the games as being the standard for the characters, as is with your Shadow comic portrayal argument, explain to me how her treatment in the games is any different than that of the comics? At least in the comics Amy gets to go toe to toe with bad guys and show off some of her toughness.

The only ill treatment of Amy I see in the comics is the possible tease-play of her getting with Sonic, and that is pretty much all her own fault as she is the one who is doing all the wanting, not Sonic playing games with her.

Now if this were to change how is that anywhere near being "in character"?? Please tell. In no way have the games, and I suspect will the games ever pair Sonic and Amy up as a couple, they will defintely string Amy along as that is her sole purpose as a character. So if a Sonic Amy relationship not happening is the "ill treatment" you speak of then it is highly hypocritical to say Shadow is OOC to his game counterpart yet bitch that Amy is treated badly when she is treated exactly like how she is in the games.

Besides your opinion on Sonic and Amy's relationship I see no other mistreatment towards Amy's character, she's getting page time, she's getting to kick butt, all I am hearing is bitching that Sonic and Amy aren't together - and I in no way see that as a valid argument that Amy is mistreated.

Anyway, if you don't even buy the comics then why have such an outcry about them? Who are the writers gonna listen to, people who consistantly buy their work or people who only buy an issue every year or so?

Sonic and Sally are obviously back together because it is wanted.

And from your post it seems as though you'd have the comic with no romance whatsoever, glad you don't have control over the thing cuz that would be one boooooring arsed comic. What's wrong with seeing some Bunnie and Antoine, seeing one character's feeling for another, a little love here and there? Julie-su is clingy towards Knuckles after he went Enerjak? Gee wonder why that would be, could it be perhaps that she cares for him and wants to be there for him even if he's acting standoffish and trying to be macho she cares and want him to know, plus she might've almost lost him, she'd wanna spend time with him after a scare like that. Do you actually understand human emotion, or are you one of Eggman's robots posting on here in disguise?

To me it seems like you want the comics devoid of any emotion at all, wow that would be fun.

Aww, you think I'm an emotionless robot. How cute! I'll keep on being critical of it thank you very much, since there are things about it that I do like (the ART) verses the things I think could use more improvement (the writing). I'll just keep hatin' in my little tin boots since a hater like me is gonna hate.

Oh well. I've made my point, and now, true exit through stage left.

[Arcade Racer CC14]

How about some temporary StH 219 preview pages to lighten the mood?

Sweeeeeeeeet. Jamal Peppers is doing art on a main story for once!

[Kuzu]

So yeah, how bout that awesome artwork people.

[Yong]

Mina was tramitized by the seige? Well that came out of nowhere.

[Aquaslash]

Kind of expected if you ask me. Even the Council was noticeably shaken up by it.

EDIT: As for Sonic/Sally, well, I suppose we HAVE to keep teasing the shippers since that's what they want, even though the ship is doomed by Executive Meddling/Veto

Edited November 18, 2010 by Aquaslash

[Detective Shadzter]

Just stumbled across something you Archie Sonic fans may be interested in:

New York, NY (November 18, 2010): The world’s longest running video game-based comic book, Archie Comics’ Sonic the Hedgehog series, gets an extra dose of COLOR this fall to coincide with the release of SEGA’s brand new, highly-anticipated video game, SONIC COLORS!

The exclusive adaptation back-up story, written by Archie-Sonic scribe Ian Flynn and penciled by fan-favorite artist Tracy Yardley, will be featured in Archie Comics’ Sonic the Hedgehog #219, set to hit stores December 8th, 2010.

“It’s true to the source,” says writer Ian Flynn of the comic book adaptation. “We worked out a five page story that introduces our audience to the world of the game and tease a few of the crucial story elements…fans can then play the adventure for themselves by picking up the game.” Sonic Colors marks Flynn’s 7th Sonic the Hedgehog video game adaptation, including takes on Sonic and the Secret Rings, Sonic and the Black Knight, and the recent Sega smash Sonic Unleashed!

“We were provided with some awesome early concept art and rough cuts of some of the gameplay,” continues Flynn, “which offered us the ability to make the transition between comic book and video game much smoother – I think the fans are really gonna dig this one!”

“The game stories are always fun for me,” adds artist Tracy Yardley, who has been bringing Sonic the Hedgehog’s world to comic books for over 5 years and counting. “The game looks incredible and I'm pleased with how our adaptation turned out.”

In addition to the Sonic Colors adaptation, Sonic the Hedgehog #219 features the epic first installment of “In Service to the King,” which begins the build-up to next year’s 20th anniversary celebration of Sonic the Hedgehog! It’s a great time to be a “Sonic” fan!

Sonic Colors video game available in stores November 16th.

Sonic the Hedgehog #219 available in stores the week of December 7th!

http://www.comicsbulletin.com/news/129010120068797.htm

[Aquaslash]

Looks like Sonic has a new wisp power there:

COMPUTER ROOM!

[Immortheus]

And if not this fight, Archie!Shadow just really bothers me as a whole since they can't seem to figure out what to do with him. In the Enerjak Saga he basically got HIS ass beat after showing up on the scene like the trump card and acting like he was hot stuff to boot. Then disappears, and is now searching for Sol Emeralds/cereal prizes for some dubious reason.

I may be a little late with this, but you seem to have forgotten the SU Shadow Saga, which showed Shadow working for G.U.N. (plus, his status a G.U.N. agent was mentioned in "Enerjak: Reborn") I'm pretty sure it's been outright stated that Team Dark's collecting the Sol Emeralds for G.U.N.

[Mangoaxe5]

I hope that Sonic, and Sally do get back together. The preview of issue#219 looks good. I can't wait to read it.

[Hybrid]

yeah that would please few people i know. I really don't want to miss reading that one

[Mangoaxe5]

I wonder if Mina's going to be the traitor to the Freedom Fighters.

[CrownSlayers Shadow]

I wonder if Mina's going to be the traitor to the Freedom Fighters.

Chances of that happening are pretty slim. It's likely given all the twists and turns they've been taking things after issue #125, but not too much.

[Arcade Racer CC14]

Hmm....

Mogul could in theory control her from the future, given he gave her her speed power, and all. I doubt it, but it's possible.

Edited November 20, 2010 by chaoscontrol14

[Phos]

It's rather convenient that Mina's in this issue because recently I've been wondering why her tail is so short.

Chances of that happening are pretty slim. It's likely given all the twists and turns they've been taking things after issue #125, but not too much.

Perhaps she (or whoever the traitor is) has been subliminally influenced to sabotage the heroes' efforts without realizing it? Eh, would be kind of cheap. They could make it whoever because mind control.

Edited November 21, 2010 by Phos

[The-Master-Board]

Aww, you think I'm an emotionless robot. How cute! I'll keep on being critical of it thank you very much, since there are things about it that I do like (the ART) verses the things I think could use more improvement (the writing). I'll just keep hatin' in my little tin boots since a hater like me is gonna hate.

Oh well. I've made my point, and now, true exit through stage left.

[CrownSlayers Shadow]

Perhaps she (or whoever the traitor is) has been subliminally influenced to sabotage the heroes' efforts without realizing it? Eh, would be kind of cheap. They could make it whoever because mind control.

[Elseb]

I received Sonic Universe #22 on Friday, it's a really good read. I'm preferring Sonic Universe to the regular series at the moment.

[KittyNakajima]

Way to focus on the joke and avoid giving an actual answer.

Where is Amy's mistreatment exactly? To me it just seems as though you're bitter that Amy isn't with Sonic and therefore is "wronged" somehow even though this is exactly in character with her game counterpart of which is the norm.

I didn't exactly like the Sonic Sally breakup or the weird "pairing" of him and Mina, but I'd hardly cry out "Sally is being msitreated" because of it or my like for Sally as a character.

Oh and your boots would most likely be Aluminium or steel not tin if you were a robot.

Have we discovered whether or not this "traitor" is the one who Silver has been trying to hunt down, or is this a completely different case? I can't see why they would reveal this traitor so soon if it is one and the same, with Silver's big SU arc coming up I'd assume it would touch somewhat if not be focused entirely on this as that has been Silver's comic hop-on point and purpose so far.

Edited November 21, 2010 by KittyNakajima

[Badnik Zero]

It was a theory of mine that King Max would be Silver's traitor, since as the leader of the Kingdom the Freedom Fighters fought for, maybe he could be called a Freedom Fighter too. Him and St. John setting up the old order of things or something. These new panels make me reconsider all that though.

[Sega DogTagz]

While King Max's position in the series has stagnated a bit as of late, I think calling him out of place would be a bit premature. When you look back at the comic's history, the King has been a catalyst for the development of other characters, namely Sally, Ellias and Sonic. Even in his "hate-everything" mode, his current relationship with Ellias adds a ton of depth the the current Kings character. He may not represent himself very well at the moment, but I think that Maxamillion creates a tension with current characters that would be irreplaceable by others (such as Hamlin). To give him the ultimate boot would leave a lot inner turmoil unresolved.

Edited November 21, 2010 by Sega DogTagz

[KittyNakajima]

While King Max's position in the series has stagnated a bit as of late, I think calling him out of place would be a bit premature. When you look back at the comic's history, the King has been a catalyst for the development of other characters, namely Sally, Ellias and Sonic. Even in his "hate-everything" mode, his current relationship with Ellias adds a ton of depth the the current Kings character. He may not represent himself very well at the moment, but I think that Maxamillion creates a tension with current characters that would be irreplaceable by others (such as Hamlin). To give him the ultimate boot would leave a lot inner turmoil unresolved.

[Badnik Zero]

Well one problem I feel the comic has is offing side characters for no reason other than feeling they clutter the cast. I don't understand why that's an issue in a long running comic, where a villain from years past can still be used to good effect. I'm mostly talking about Echidnas, but there are other characters they did that too also.

[The-Master-Board]

I've read the issue, and the fact that Shadow basically powered on like some heavy handed idiot against her, especially in the second confrontation where she was trying to explain they didn't have said emerald/not fight was ridiculous. The only reason I can think of that he'd go that hard on her was because she made HIM look like a fool earlier in the issue when she caught him off guard and gave him a good smack with her hammer, after his team had confronted hers and started the catch/grab for the Sol Emeralds.

Or he's acting like a soldier following orders and treating the casulties that stand in the way of obtaining the goal as collateral. And anyway, Shadow has never exactly been Mr.Nice-guy, I'm sure he wouldn't go out of his way to smack Amy down but if she's in his way and fighting back I don't see it as that much of a stretch to see him do what he does here.

Does it really matter that they didn't have the emerald and were trying to explain such? Not really. Team Dark at the time are still under the assumption, and had no reason to believe otherwise, that the girls still have the Sol Emerald. Given how much power Blaze displayed that they may have been priorly unsavvy to, a little overprecaution seems like a good option. Furthermore how would that have improved the story?

No fight between Team Dark and Team Rose would've totally rewritten the ending as there would have been no distraction for Team Hooligan to get away.

I don't see any complaints about how Rouge is out of character. As I recall she has never fought exceptionally dirty in the games before, yet in this issue she kicks Blaze in the back then drops her in the head with an elbow....but that isn't happening against your favourite character so I guess it's alright?

I like them to stick to the games characterisation but a little artistic liberty is ok provided it isn't unbelievably out of character.

That's like me punching someone in the face when you're trying to give a plausible reason/explanation for something that's happened, and we'd fought before. For being cool and collected under pressure, he sure handled that well. (/sarcasm)

Or it's like you stealing my lunch money, my friend going and telling the teacher without your knowledge, you getting in trouble then confronting me to punch me in the face because as far as you know it was me who ratted on you whilst I try to explain it wasn't me, but the punch still happens as fights aren't exactly civilized debates or turn based RPG's where you cast "explain everything before get punched in face".

Shadow still thinks they have the emerald, his mission is still to get the emerald (if you have actually read SU issues, which I have to wonder if you have or have not due to your selective reading of the comic, then you would know how angsty Shadow has been over his "failed" past missions for G.U.N. He's pretty much been determined to do his best ever since to get a mission done properly.)

Amy is but an obstacle in the way of a completed mission, if she were a spectator he wouldn't go out of his way to be an ass towards her, but she is confronting him, she gets what she gets. Hell if anyone is wronged here by Shadow it is Blaze. She saved Shadow twice back in SU#1 and gave up a Chaos emerald that she was using to find the Sol emeralds just so that Shadow could get home.

"For acting cool and calm under pressure, he sure handled that well"??

Have you played Sth? There's a little move in there called "Chaos blast" which is pretty much the Sonic series version of "Hulk smash"; Shadow gets uber pissed off goes on a rampage etc. I wouldn't exactly call Shadow "cool and calm", there's a difference between acting apathetic and angsty to cool and calm.

Secondly, I love how you keep throwing Sonamy in my face like I'm trying to give that as the only reason why I dislike criticize the comics/certain characters, etc. There are previous replies I've made here within the course of the topic that back that up, as well as my previous replies to you concerning specific couples and such, and yet you keep shoving Sonamy/Amy love down my throat. But if you want to hear me say it, then YES. I am a fan of both. So what? And no, that does not cloud my judgment or make me any less apt at criticizing anything about this comic, as I've been critical of them as characters or as a couple within the comic? So that line of logic falls flat on its face.

That would all be well and good if you actually did provide any other reasons besides a Sonic/Amy pairing like, but if you care to go back and look you have provided little (or nothing) besides that. All you have said is that Amy being on the cover of that new issue seeing Sonic and Sally together is insulting. Well why would that be?.....because it's insulting to a Sonic/Amy paring? And beyond that where else have you said anything else on the matter of why Amy is mistreated? I would gladly debate other reasons but you have provided none yet claim to. That is the reason why as you say I have "thrown Sonamy in your face".

I'm not even a person who really cares for pairings, though I will admit I do like Sally and Sonic, but I'm not the kind of person who gets annoyed without it. However I do get annoyed when somebody rags on the Sonic Sally thing and makes out Amy's character has been defiled somehow only for the reason of her not being with Sonic.

Have a look at the games of which you hold Shadow's portrayal so high, Amy has been chasing Sonic to no avail for a good what 18 years? Her inclusion in SA was to run away from a robot for a whole level. In Sth'06 they gave her ridiculous invisibilty powers out of nowhere for no reason so she could hide from enemies and not in the cool stealthy kick ass ninja way like Espio, but more of a degrading kind of way. She has been portrayed as psychotic and needy. The games have treated her very poorly, in the comics she's a tough independant girl who's a real threat and who the FF have come to rely on as back-up now. Some might say even Tails has yet to get this kind of respect from the FF as he's still treated like the resident kid. In the comics she likes Sonic but it isn't the same kind of creepy "self professed girlfriend" way like in the games.

If you have any discontent with the character the games are where your hate should be aimed, but it's not is it? Why is that? Because there is no one coverting Sonic's affections in the games therefore Amy has a "chance", but in the comics Amy is "mistreated" cuz she has to see Sonic and Sally together? Gimme a break.

That said, I have not been waving it in your face, so why wave it in mine? You have repeatedly insulted both my intelligence and my commentary on this particular issue by resorting to childish insults as well as using a pairing/character that I happen to enjoy to further that. I could give a rat's ass what you think about my opinion personally, but for fuck's sake, be civil about it, as I fail to see what calling me an emotionless robot/anti-this or that has to do with the topic at hand. I also do not post a lot, so when I do, you can bet I have a lot to say about the topic at hand. I admit I had a moment of weakness given the content in my last post, but I will not and SHALL not stoop to your level of idiocy when making commentary in this topic.

Whether or not you choose to regard any or none of what I've said is completely up to you, but I've said my piece so I'm moving on.

If you come on forums and expect to bitch about things then you should expect other people to have differing opinions and bitch about things too. I don't see childish insults, I was trying to lighten the mood a little with robot related humor and frankly I was being civil, at least, civil enough to not resort to swearing like you have done.

The robot thing was a joke pointing out that your comments pretty much seemed as though you'd run the comic as though the characters had no emotions. Really, would you want that? I can understand peoples dislike of the comic having love triangles and drama shoehorned into everything and feeling like some bad teen tv drama show, but a comic where there is absolutely NO love or relationships is just as bad if not worse.

The comics are a snippet of life, albeit in this case the lives of anthropomorpic animals, and what is life without love?

Maybe you should stoop to my level of idiocy, I at least don't judge a comic based on my favourite pairing not being prominent and claim the character is somehow wronged because, and only because of it.

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Hmm I'm thinking that it's gonna end up being Geoffrey or the King that ends up screwing Sonic over. The Mina thing, if it is only a little side bit and not entirely dependant on the main story to make sense is pretty cool. It's that sort of extra depth that I like in the comics, a bit of extra stuff that isn't exactly needed but is there to add to the believabilty of this deep world. I mean the IQ arc stuff must've had effects on people, and I'm not just talking about main cast characters who have to go deal with side stories and things like that, but just how it effects characters later on in almost meaningless to the main plot terms of things. It's just depth. I like a little continuation, not like usual when we have Tails come back from Cocoa island and it's not mentioned again, a little panel with Sonic's ruffling his hair and complimenting him on his first "solo adventure as main hero" would've been nice, or some segue between the Sandblast arc and this one - not Sonic just popping up and the next story continues. It helps the stories to flow and feel like one big encompassing thing and not just a series of singular events.

I wonder if anyone has been more vigilant than most in keeping count of the Chaos/Sol emeralds? I'd like to know as I'm unsure as to who has what in their possession at the moment. G.U.N has the one Team Dark procured from Feist....and possibly the one Shadow was given by Blaze when he returned home? Doesn't Mogul have the one that they used to get Tails' parents back from that alien planet? If I remember correctly Mogul extorted it from the kingdom for safe return of Mighty, Tails and Mina?

Then Blaze has at least one Sol emerald....and another is currently in the hands of Team Hooligan. I'm just wondering why G.U.N would be going after the Sol emeralds instead of the Chaos Emeralds unless they have hit a snag or run out, I mean there are only seven....must've run out of Chaos emeralds and decided to go for Sol ones, unless there is some military intelligence they have that we don't know of yet? Perhaps relating to some big event that somehow effects the future and ties into Silver's SU arc?

Edited November 22, 2010 by The-Master-Board