Sonic Lost World Announced

[Blue Blood]

Not to doubt any hype for the 29th... but, what proof do we actually have of them announcing things on the 29th? We already thought they were showing a teaser several days ago, and that never happened lol.

 

Just don't wanna get my hopes up... again.

 

As above, this is what SEGA said on Facebook:

Six will rise from the Lost World. Are they friends or foes? Find out on May 29th.

 

So yeah, get your hopes up for news!  The only thing is, we don't know exactly what news. Will they just reveal these guys, or will it be a full announcement of the game complete with a press release, logo and maybe screenshots and/or a trailer? I'm guessing that this will be the formal unveiling of the game considering it will have been about two weeks since it was announced on Nintendo Direct, and E3 will be just around the corner. 

Edited May 26, 2013 by Blue Blood

[Nepenthe]

The difference between family-friendly and kid-friendly is just as much a matter of writing as it is design, specifically a stronger rejection of uncomfortable subject matter in the latter than the former, like dangerous elements, implied harm and death, emotions and events pertaining to sadness, revenge, and other negative emotions, and how viscerally those things are meant to be visualized. It is not the fact that Little Bear looks the way he does that makes him inherently more kid-friendly than a Pixar character. It is the fact that he lives in a world governed by far more utopian rules than Pixar films so as not to easily upset children. Little Bear is not in danger of having any serious parental issues. But Russell from Up? Well....

Specifically, I would be more willing to denote Sonic a family-friendly franchise than solely a kid-friendly one based upon all of the shit that has gone done in the games and other media. It simply doesn't shy away from unpleasant material; the world is wracked with destruction in significant detail, characters die, and the cast possess greater moral extremism. It is, in effect, a super hero or shonen series which doesn't jive with the kind of writing we've seen over the past two games where absolutely nothing of note happens. Sonic can be jokey and kid-friendly, but he shouldn't eschew his action-adventure roots or attempts at emotional depth either.

[Kuzu]

I'm not saying the series has never been serious in the past; even before the Adventure games there was a sense of an underlying threat. However, I don't the judgmental attitude towards this game that its automatically "kiddy" based on design alone. Now if its skepticism based on the last two games then sure, but basing the entire tone of a game on no information beside silhouette's just seems superfluous to me. 

 

Like you said, I tend to judge "kiddy" based more on writing quality than design.

[Nepenthe]

Well of course; I'm not defending Riverstone's argument so much as putting my two cents in. =P It's extremely easy to make the argument that a specifically kid-oriented direction is not the way Sonic should go, because the label leaves out things that are inherent about the franchise's appeal.

[Woun]

Fan made: representation Sonic Lost World by Omnitrix. 

 
 
OBJECTION!

Edited May 26, 2013 by Woun

[Chaos Warp]

Umm... I only think that our colleagues work better than SEGA?

 

 

OBJECTION!

So wait, is this a fan-render or is this official?

[Woun]

So wait, is this a fan-render or is this official?

It's by Omnitrix. 

[sonfan1984]

Nice CGI but what does that fan render has anything to do with the discussion?

[Chaos Warp]

It's by Omnitrix. 

Ah, figures SEGA would not make a render that good.

[#EndyGate]

Then what was the point of that comment above it? :U

[ArtFenix]

Ololo SEGA, time to learn from your own fans how to make renders!

[Match]

Nice CGI but what does that fan render has anything to do with the discussion?

I'd wager that since the discussion is about Sonic Lost World and this excellent fan work is about Sonic Lost World the similarities are obvious?

[Nepenthe]

I love the idea that a fan making one single good render means Sega has actually never made a good one and thus they need to learn anything from us. Maybe we could stand to learn some humility in return and be able to appreciate the art coming from both sources without turning it into an idiotic contest.

[sonfan1984]

Well atleast it help changed the subject. :v

[DarkLight]

I agree. While SEGA's recent CGI work is mostly stale and fan-work can be awesome when well-made, it's really petty to make claims about who does it better. It's not a contest, so why make it so? 

 

 

 

And this is coming from someone who finds the fan-render just 'okay.'

Edited May 26, 2013 by DarkLight

[ArtFenix]

I love the idea that a fan making one single good render means Sega has actually never made a good one and thus they need to learn anything from us. Maybe we could stand to learn some humility in return and be able to appreciate the art coming from both sources without turning it into an idiotic contest.

Actually it's been a while since SEGA made a better render than those of that fan (Omnitrix). And he made MUCH more renders than a "single one".

And I DO appreciate both official and fan made renders. The thing is, recent fan made renders ARE better than most of the official ones. Let's call a spade a spade, OK?

 

And just saying... Discussing this now at least adds something more exact and to the point than making one frigging hundred pages of discussion about a piece of artwork and some obscure silhouettes.

Edited May 26, 2013 by ArtFenix

[Spin Attaxx]

The silhouettes are actually relevant to the game proper though.

[Kuzu]

Actually it's been a while since SEGA made a better render than those of that fan (Omnitrix). And he made MUCH more renders than a "single one".

And I DO appreciate both official and fan made renders. The thing is, recent fan made renders ARE better than most of the official ones. Let's call a spade a spade, OK?

 

And just saying... Discussing this now at least adds something more exact and to the point than making one frigging hundred pages of discussion about a piece of artwork and some obscure silhouettes.

 

Except that wasn't the point she was making. You're trying to make it seem like its some type of competition between the fans and Sega on who can make something better when it isn't. Just because some fans can do some amazing things doesn't make them automatically better than Sega.

[Diogenes]

Ololo SEGA, time to learn from your own fans how to make renders!

I don't think making Sonic look jaundiced would be an improvement. Also his mouth looks almost vertical, what.

[ArtFenix]

Except that wasn't the point she was making. You're trying to make it seem like its some type of competition between the fans and Sega on who can make something better when it isn't. Just because some fans can do some amazing things doesn't make them automatically better than Sega.

I'm not saying SEGA can't make such amazing renders. They just don't. That's all. It's not a competition but in my humble opinion it's a shame that recent official renders look the same with one-two poses with small changes while fan-made renders have much more put into them and just become better and better. I really think SEGA could and should learn that the "work" part in the word "artwork" is not for nothing. SEGA seem to forget that and put little to no effort in Sonic renders.

At least their 2D artwork is still awesome.

[Nepenthe]

There's nothing particularly special about that render though, aside from the fact that a fan did it. Forced perspective and yellow back lighting are pretty much Secret Rings tier. It's nice, but it doesn't have any qualities absent from Sega's entire library of renders. If anything, the promotional and situational renders of Sonic from Unleashed and Colors were more interesting.

[Kuzu]

There's nothing particularly special about that render though, aside from the fact that a fan did it. Forced perspective and yellow back lighting are pretty much Secret Rings tier. It's nice, but it doesn't have any qualities absent from Sega's entire library of renders. If anything, the promotional and situational renders of Sonic from Unleashed and Colors were more interesting.

 

To be fair, I think he's speaking of recent renders like the Sonic 4 ones.

[ArtFenix]

Indeed I was.

[Nepenthe]

If we're going on recent renders, then let's take Sega's latest: The first damn piece of artwork we got from Lost Worlds- with Sonic and Tails flying towards the planet- blows this character render away. Yet again, I'm supposed to believe back lighting and a forced perspective means this is better than all of Sega's recent efforts? Bollocks. Like I said, let's give credit where credit is due instead of trying to downplay the achievements of both parties. The fan render is good, as well as Sega's general output.

[Spin Attaxx]

So here's a rough idea of what I think the guardians look like (sorry for relatively subpar art):

In hindsight, Staff Rider had a moustache. I didn't see the wispy bit on top of his head either, and thought his moustache was part of his stick.

 

And ths scene needs to be in the game goddamnit!