Generations 3DS Chat - Oh look guys new rules (p.58)

[Thigolf]

You now what? Neon is right. I own the game already, so I have to know. Modern Sonic is like that, he is straight forward and has few plattforming sections. BUT. If you just run through like that, take a normal, easy to find path, youll never get a S Rank. It's not like the HD Version where you can go any way you like, even long ones and you still get an S. You need to know when you have to pick which part of the level to get an S, and thats what the fun of this game is to me. Sure, there are many highway in the sky moments, but there are still lots of routes to explore, even if they dont offer that much. Plus, if you want much plattforming, thats what the classic levels are for.

[PSI Wind]

You now what? Neon is right. I own the game already, so I have to know. Modern Sonic is like that, he is straight forward and has few plattforming sections. BUT. If you just run through like that, take a normal, easy to find path, youll never get a S Rank. It's not like the HD Version where you can go any way you like, even long ones and you still get an S. You need to know when you have to pick which part of the level to get an S, and thats what the fun of this game is to me. Sure, there are many highway in the sky moments, but there are still lots of routes to explore, even if they dont offer that much. Plus, if you want much plattforming, thats what the classic levels are for.

That's actually one of the things I like about the handheld games. They seem to have more challenge when it comes to ranks nowadays.

[Autosaver]

When we've seen almost HALF of the stages? This didn't fly with Generations on consoles and it won't fly now. Sure other stages proved to be better than GHZ on the console, but that's already been proven (as far as opinions go mind) not to be case for this version. If the game looks bad, then it looks bad. The way you're putting it people shouldn't praise a game either when we've only seen 3 out of 7 stages.

3/7 = 43% < 1/2 = 50%

Green Hill Zone and Mushroom Hill Zone both look amazing, sure Emerald Coast may be a dud in your eyes but how about you wait to see the other levels? I'm sure the other levels will be much better then what you saw. Modern is also only half the game with Classic taking the other half. You would probably enjoy the Classic levels if you don't enjoy what you're seeing right now.

Sure, there are many highway in the sky moments, but there are still lots of routes to explore,

Yup, this is what I've said before. It is all about taking the best routes/fastest routes to get to the goal first. If you're going to mindlessly boost, you're not going to get the best score. You'll also lose a ton of online battles if you stick to the boost logic.

Edited November 17, 2011 by Autosaver

[Tails spin]

You now what? Neon is right. I own the game already, so I have to know. Modern Sonic is like that, he is straight forward and has few plattforming sections. BUT. If you just run through like that, take a normal, easy to find path, youll never get a S Rank. It's not like the HD Version where you can go any way you like, even long ones and you still get an S. You need to know when you have to pick which part of the level to get an S, and thats what the fun of this game is to me. Sure, there are many highway in the sky moments, but there are still lots of routes to explore, even if they dont offer that much. Plus, if you want much plattforming, thats what the classic levels are for.

right! not to criticize or anything thigolf but looking at your playthrough I saw a few other places to go if the boost wasn't used that much.

[pppp]

That wasn't the point. Just wait for the rest of the game's levels and then you can make fun of the game all you want. Not really liking people complaining about the game when we've seen 3/7 levels.

So the fact we already have 3 bland levels doesn't bug you at all? Up your standards dude.We all know Dimps can do better than this,why should we be satisfied with something inferior?

[Kuzu]

Good God that stage looks terrible, and this is getting better reception because? Is the world like Backwards or something?

[Blue Blood]

3/7 = 43% < 1/2 = 50%

Green Hill Zone and Mushroom Hill Zone both look amazing, sure Emerald Coast may be a dud in your eyes but how about you wait to see the other levels? I'm sure the other levels will be much better then what you saw. Modern is also only half the game with Classic taking the other half. You would probably enjoy the Classic levels if you don't enjoy what you're seeing right now.

Almost means "not exactly". I said "almost half"

Green Hill, Mushroom Hill and Emerald Coast all look like duds in my eyes. What screenshots have shown of Radical Highway and Casino Night make them look like dud stages also. I shouldn't have to just enjoy one half of the game, and I'm not sure I'll even do that. The Megadrive era stages are straight up rips of the original stages, while "Classic level designs" of S4E1 are pants and so don't leave me with much hope for this game.

[Spooky Mulder]

Sure Emerald Coast may be a dud in your eyes but how about you wait to see the other levels? I'm sure the other levels will be much better then what you saw.

People (myself included) said this about every stage in Sonic 4 from the initial 3 seconds of footage until the final build was revealed.

Edited November 17, 2011 by Spooky Mulder

[Cola]

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You guys set your standards too high WHOOPSDIDIJUSTSAYTHATOUTLOUD

Anyway, if you guys don't want the game, ignore it, don't buy it, don't give your money to support it. Simple as that. The level design could be better, but it seems like you guys are judging this game on Modern levels alone. Then again, that's all we really have so far.'

Anyway, what I said above is stupid, but I'm just putting it out there for your entertainment. Bottom line is, I think it looks fun and I'll buy it. It'll be a good addition to my 3DS library, and will be great for those times I need bite-sized doses of Sonic action.

[EXshad]

Looking at the footage, yeah the path he was on looked linear as fuck, but there were a LOT of alternate paths. Plus, some paths involved wall-jumping, traveling on an air-stream, and dodging a whale; seems like a good balance of variety to me. Plus, consider that Sega is trying to contrast both Sonics, it'd only make sense one would focus more on platforming while the other would focus more on the speed-based aspect, a la the Rush titles.

The level looks fine, the REAL issue is that it took less than a minute and a half to beat. Holy shit, first Classic Green Hill now this level. Are all the levels this short?

Also, I'd truly appreciate some boss footage :3 If it cannot be done, I totally understand, I appreciate all the info you've posted so far Thigolf, thank you

[Autosaver]

People (myself included) said this about every stage in Sonic 4 from the initial 3 seconds of footage until the final build was revealed.

I think this made my day, you actually made me laugh with this quote. Thanks, a laugh after a long day was pretty nice.

I'll just wait. The game looks like a Sonic Rush clone where you race to the finish and take alternate paths along the way. Emerald Coast had a bit of those, but I'm sure they'll spike even more during the later levels. Isn't Dimps known for making harder levels near the end of the game?

And yes, the levels are short. But like someone said before, the 3DS version seems to be made with the pick up and play attitude in mind. Playing a level for 2 minutes is just more reasonable then spending 5+.

Edit: We've barely seen anything out of the Radical Highway/Casino Night stages. The most we got was Sonic running with some gimmick being shown. And no, I'm not forcing you to enjoy the game.

If you don't enjoy the game, then I guess.. you just won't enjoy it. I'm sure hundreds of others will be enjoying it though.

Edited November 17, 2011 by Autosaver

[Tails spin]

Ugh this is getting annoying can't we just agree to disagree. some here like it, some don't like it. can we atleast agree on that. and not critizes each other for there tastes

[Blue Blood]

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You guys set your standards too high WHOOPSDIDIJUSTSAYTHATOUTLOUD

Anyway, if you guys don't want the game, ignore it, don't buy it, don't give your money to support it. Simple as that. The level design could be better, but it seems like you guys are judging this game on Modern levels alone. Then again, that's all we really have so far.'

Three of seven classic acts are rehashes in the most literal way. The other four include the homing attack, something distinctly unclassic and unejoyable about Dimps' version of classic level design in S4E1 (amongst other factors mind). I don't see them being particularly good.

Edited November 17, 2011 by Blue Blood

[The Dead Skin]

Ugh this is getting annoying can't we just agree to disagree. some here like it, some don't like it. can we atleast agree on that. and not critizes each other for there tastes

Hello? This is an internet forum, infested with mad humans.

[Cola]

Three of seven classic acts are rehashes in the most literal way. The other four include the homing attack, something distinctly unclassic about Dimps' version of classic level design in S4E1. I don't see them being particularly good.

You specifically left out the rest of my quote. Here, lemme get it for you...

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You guys set your standards too high WHOOPSDIDIJUSTSAYTHATOUTLOUD

Anyway, if you guys don't want the game, ignore it, don't buy it, don't give your money to support it. Simple as that. The level design could be better, but it seems like you guys are judging this game on Modern levels alone. Then again, that's all we really have so far.'

Anyway, what I said above is stupid, but I'm just putting it out there for your entertainment. Bottom line is, I think it looks fun and I'll buy it. It'll be a good addition to my 3DS library, and will be great for those times I need bite-sized doses of Sonic action.

So feel free to argue with the rest of my quote, but it'll go nowhere. I can see what you're getting at, but we've just gotta wait and see, right? Besides, I don't mind the homing attack. As long as, well, it isn't mandatory. I'd also love it if it can be disabled.

[pppp]

Ugh this is getting annoying can't we just agree to disagree. some here like it, some don't like it. can we atleast agree on that. and not critizes each other for there tastes

I'm not criticizing anyone,if you guys are satisfied easily that's fine,it's not your fault,it's who you are. However you should also realize that we who hate the 3ds version hate on it because it could be a lot and i mean a lot better.Sonic Team stepped their game up and gave us the 1st amazing Sonic Game since Sonic 3. I don't think it's at all unreasonable for us to expect high quality. Dimps can't just copy paste the classic stages,slap in modern levels devoid of substance and expect me to just eat it up.Sonic Rush Adventure was bland,Sonic 4 was crap and now this game is incredibly lazy. Dimps are not trying to improve on each game they do like they should.If nobody criticizes it,this is the way it's gonna be and we'll never get better games.

[Someguy]

I kind of wish they'd let Dimps make an actual game that they came up with and designed...Sonic 4 wasn't their idea. Colors, Generations and Unwiished were ports. When they did things their own way, the games were mostly quality and even unique on occasion. Screw SA3. Can we get an actual Sonic Rush 3 instead of ports?

Honestly I don't think they're going to get the chance, SEGA keeps shoving crap at them going things like "here, we're making this awesome title, go make a handheld version while still working on Sonic 4 Episode 2" and now everyone hates them. This game looks decent but it also kinda looks either rushed or like they don't really want to make it... that and I assume it's the first 3D title of the handheld Dimps division going against the culmination of over ten years of 3D Sonic game engines and tweaks.

I'm sure "sympathy for the devil Dimps" would be a whole different topic though... at least we're going to get quite a few more remixes out of this game?

[Tails spin]

Honestly I don't think they're going to get the chance, SEGA keeps shoving crap at them going things like "here, we're making this awesome title, go make a handheld version while still working on Sonic 4 Episode 2" and now everyone hates them. This game looks decent but it also kinda looks either rushed or like they don't really want to make it... that and I assume it's the first 3D title of the handheld Dimps division going against the culmination of over ten years of 3D Sonic game engines and tweaks.

I'm sure "sympathy for the devil Dimps" would be a whole different topic though... at least we're going to get quite a few more remixes out of this game?

not only episode 2, but colors ds and episode 1

[Nintendoga]

This game doesn't look terrible, but it looks lazy. Graphically speaking the game is gorgeous....in the foreground. The backgrounds look empty and lazy as shit. Gameplay wise, it's like they focused on one Sonic, and ignored the other. Classic has alot of platforming which is good, but Modern looks boost to win with some QTE's from the 3 stages we've seen.

I like the level and boss list. Sounds way past cool.

Egg Emperor was my favorite boss in Heroes and Radical Highway sounds sweet!

If this game gets better reviews then the HD version, meh. I'll be in disbelief at first, but in the end I don't care about that.

Tbh, I was gonna skip this game, but after the spoilers, one thing makes me want to buy it now.

Biolizard + Supporting Me Remix.

If anything, When I look at Classic's levels, they make me think this is a port of a fantastic game. But Modern's levels make me think this is a prototype of a fantastic game. Oh well, can't say anything until I actually play the game though.

Edited November 17, 2011 by Mike Dawson

[Balding Spider]

Good God that stage looks terrible, and this is getting better reception because? Is the world like Backwards or something?

It's getting better reception because it's both in 2D, and the Final boss wont be a mess of a fight like the console version was?

[Space☆Tomoki]

The 3DS version looks decent, but not worth $40. I won't compare it to the console version since it's just a handheld game, but... I don't know... from what I've seen so far, it looks so... empty and lifeless. So far, the only thing that catches my interest in this version is the music and maybe the boss fights. I don't have a 3DS, so I think I'll hold out on it until more games that catch my interest come out.

[Xenos]

People (myself included) said this about every stage in Sonic 4 from the initial 3 seconds of footage until the final build was revealed.

And? These are 2 different games.

[Nast]

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[Soniman]

Shit, nice to know one video can cause so much bitching, NEVER CANGE SONIF FANDOM!!!!

But seriously, don't fucking diss Emerald Coast original, because that version created many childhood memories that rather no be tarnished by the comparisons to the craptacular 3DS version.

Edited November 17, 2011 by Soniman032-

[sonfan1984]

It's getting better reception because it's both in 2D, and the Final boss wont be a mess of a fight like the console version was?

I'm probably those type of people who don't think too highly on 2D gameplay and because it's 2D doesn't make it better.