New Super Mario Bros. 2 (3DS)- How Many? One Mirrion Coins.

[Nintendoga]

Other favorite characters? Do they mean...

Not sure if Nintendo is serious or trolling.

MY other favorite characters on the other hand are Wario, Waluigi, Red Toad, and hell, even Peach.

Or is the 3DS still not powerful enough to render dress physics?

Edited April 23, 2012 by Nintendoga

[Tails spin]

Other favorite characters? Do they mean...

haha, love the Yellow Toads face. I would rather have regluar toad and green toad though

[Ming Ming Hatsune]

Or is the 3DS still not powerful enough to render dress physics?

Well the Wii couldn't so how can you expect the 3DS to do better? =P

[Megabox!]

Wow and ppl criticize recent Sonic titles to be bland and unoriginal. Guess I'll just wait to see the actual game in motion to fully judge it

[JezMM]

You know despite everything I actually got rather fond of the Yellow and Blue Toads through playing with friends. =C

But uhh, yeah they probably just mean Peach, Bowser, and the enemies.

[Big Boss (legendsneverdie)]

I hope the music's better than it was in the previous NSMB games.

[Winston]

Well the Wii couldn't so how can you expect the 3DS to do better? =P

Well, they did it twenty years ago with Super Mario Bros. 2....

[Tails spin]

http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=176104

Some type of Preview

[Nintendoga]

"Well, if by "Preview" it's "Please come to my article to generate hits 'cause I'm a sad person!", then yeah. It's a hell of a preview." - Kazin

And you know what, thinking this game over, I can't wait for it actually.

I need a good 2D platformer on my 3DS, and since Rayman Origins keeps getting delayed, Mario's gonna have to do it for me.

Besides, I have tons of fun with NSMB, so I'll put the art style rehash thing behind me as long as it's a solid fun platformer, with online of course.

Edited April 25, 2012 by Nintendoga

[Spooky Mulder]

NSMB2 is going to be available in the eShop for download!

http://ds.ign.com/articles/122/1223880p1.html

Also, I totally called it!

Looks bland, but I said that about 3D Land too and I was very very wrong. However, the graphics look terrible...did Nintendo actually say this is going to be a physical release?

I'd be way more hyped for this game if Nintendo announces at E3 that it's actually going to be the first original Mario game released in the eShop.

[Ekaje]

Yeah, but considering it's going to be a physical release as well, I'm not sure this is solely because of the game's graphics/size. The fact that when you look in the pages for retail games on the eShop and they'll say "Not available on the eShop" suggested that this might be an option for more games in the future and in that case, it would make sense to start it with a popular title like NSMB2.

Also, it would be nice if the digital version cost less, but I'm almost certain that isn't going to happen.

Edited April 27, 2012 by Ekaje

[Nintendoga]

Darn, Spooky beat me too it!

But yeah, NSMB2 for digital & Physical release?

Welcome to 2012 Nintendo, it's been a long time, but we're glad you could arrive.

I'm going to get the digital version so I can have the game on my 3DS at all times. Plus I'm not worried about the download pace at all,

I had a shitty internet connection for 6 years,

I had to deal with the Wii's Browser for 3 years,

I think I have enough patience to download a 2GB game.

..speaking of which I hope it's only 2 GB, I guess I'll have to go buy a 32GB Card or something when they start releasing all the games on the system.

[Chili Dawg]

Digital wholesale price will not be the same as packaged as inventory risk is different

Won't comment on wholesale price to retail for digital versus packaged

I assume this would mean we can get it digital for cheaper. Anything else woud be stupid. Nintendo has made some really dumb decisions in the past, but I don't think they're that dumb.

Don't see they're being a real significant difference though. NSMB 2 will probably still be more than it's worth.

[Ekaje]

@Nintendoga

EDIT: Checked, NSMBW wasn't even 1GB, so I doubt this one is going to be that big.

I assume this would mean we can get it digital for cheaper. Anything else woud be stupid. Nintendo has made some really dumb decisions in the past, but I don't think they're that dumb.

Always assume Nintendo will be bad at Internet until proven otherwise.

Edited April 27, 2012 by Ekaje

[Alluusio]

..speaking of which I hope it's only 2 GB, I guess I'll have to go buy a 32GB Card or something when they start releasing all the games on the system.

It won't probably be even 1GB. Even Super Mario 3D Land was smaller than 1GB and I can't really see NSMB2 to be much bigger than that.

But thank God, this bit of news just made the game a must-buy for me. If it was retail only, then I might have skipped it but an original Mario platformer you can download? Hell yes! I've been waiting for something like this to happen since I got my Wii!

Then again, I might need a bigger SD card... Does anyone know if I can transfer the data from one SD card to another? If I need to switch cards all the time, then that kind of defeats the purpose of having digital releases of the games.

[JezMM]

Pretty cool. It'd be especially awesome if you can download the digital version for free if you bought the physical one (just for the sake of "having it" etc), but that would be prone to abuse.

Then again, I might need a bigger SD card... Does anyone know if I can transfer the data from one SD card to another? If I need to switch cards all the time, then that kind of defeats the purpose of having digital releases of the games.

You can prolly just manually copy the contents of the SD card across on your computer. All save files would still be tied to your 3DS anyway so yeah.

[Cola]

You can prolly just manually copy the contents of the SD card across on your computer. All save files would still be tied to your 3DS anyway so yeah.

Yep, you can. I did it myself when I transferred my stuff over to a 4GB card

[Blue Blood]

Pretty cool. It'd be especially awesome if you can download the digital version for free if you bought the physical one (just for the sake of "having it" etc), but that would be prone to abuse.

Totally agreed. You'll have already bought the game for play on the system, so why not? It only seems fair. I like to own physical copies of game, but the benefit of not having to lug dozens of carts around is great when you're on the go.

[JezMM]

Totally agreed. You'll have already bought the game for play on the system, so why not? It only seems fair. I like to own physical copies of game, but the benefit of not having to lug dozens of carts around is great when you're on the go.

[Nintendoga]

Maybe when you buy the game's physical box, it could come with a download code that allows you to download the digital version.

Not gonna happen, but it's a cool idea.

[JezMM]

Maybe when you buy the game's physical box, it could come with a download code that allows you to download the digital version.

Not gonna happen, but it's a cool idea.

Could still easily "sell" the digital code, unless they make you authenticate it with a matching physical copy in the slot upon download (a process that can only be done once per cartridge/system).

...Actually that'd work I think.

Edited April 27, 2012 by JezMM

[Nintendoga]

Alright guys, time for another one of "Nintendoga's over-analyzing of four pics" or aka "The Sonic fanboysim in me judges and perceives the game through four screenshots"

Let's start with this first shot, of Raccoon Mario

*Mario is flying, yet the P-Meter is only half full. In the Mario Bros. 3, you could only fly when the P-Meter was full and flashing, (which it's clearly not here). Though when you were falling, Mario would go into his jumping animation, while the P-Meter would instantly drop to zero. This means either they changed the animation for falling, or maybe while you're flying, the P-meter drops slowly, to show how much time you have left in the air.

*Also the P-Meter appears in that screen only, justifying that you only have it when you have the Raccoon Tail, or (if it's in the game) the Tanooki Suit.

*Mario has over 62 coins, and the time is 436, yet he's only at the very beginning of the stage. Two assumptions. One he either ran through the stage, grabbed some coins, and the Raccoon Tail, before running back to the beginning of the stage to POSE FOR THE FANS!!! (ARGGHHH). Yet there's a problem with that, as the blocks and goomba and coins to the right are there, yet should be gone. Unless there's the slight chance of Mario intentionally skipping all of them. Also, Mario's already in the air, yet he needs more time to run with the P-meter to gain some air time. But he's only a couple of inches from the start point. Maybe the P-meter takes less time now to gain.

*There's the other assumption that he came back in the stage, allowing to keep the coins from the previous stage. Strange, but then why is the time 436? 440 time is a strange number to start with, when it's usually 500 or 300 or 200 or something, not odd numbered like 440.

*Something hard to see, if you look at the spider-web on the left, it's bottom left line is missing, yet on the right one it's not. This might mean that the longer you stay on the spider-web, it might start to unravel, like how they would dissapear in Donkey Kong Country 2. That means you better hurry up or else it's bottomless pit ( or secret area???) for you.

*The tree on the right, it looks like you may be able to go inside of it, since you're giving a view of it being on the inside. Though maybe there's a tree behind it, giving it the illusion of it being the inside of a tree. Akin to Donkey Kong Country 3.

*We've never had Pink pipes like these in a Mario game before. Nothing big, but whatever.

*The enemies are yellow/golden, and people attribute this to the Golden Mario in the next screenshot. Thing is though, Mario in that one is shining/sparkling, while these enemies are not, and thus might only be swapped color pallets.

*However, Mario being golden in that screenshot suggests a new power-up. Yet, it's possible these enemies also have the same power-up, just not a effective as how Mario uses it.

*This means it's possible for the entire game to be built around this mysterious golden power-up, similar to how almost EVERY DAMN ENEMY AND LIVING THING IN 3D LAND HAD THAT DAMN TANOOKI SUIT/RACCOON TAIL. (Sorry, but that really annoyed me in 3D Land, and I really hope it's not the case here.) This is unfortunately, suggested even more when looking at the logo, as the NEW and 2 in the Logo are also golden. It's a bit different from the original logo of NSMB and drastically different from the red and white of NSMBWii. Who knows? Only Nintendo and E3 will know.

*Why is Mario Golden? Most likely a new power, but what does it do? A logical possibility, is that maybe when you touch enemies, they turn into coins. Or maybe it's the super-guide of this game, given to the vast minority of people who die too many times in Mario games, allowing them to breeze through the stages, like how 3D Land gave you a silver Tanooki suit, making you invincible throughout the stage.

* The tiny little passage to the right of the bottom Koopa. That looks as if only mini Mario can reach it. Or, just like in the third screenshot, a platform that extends off-screen.

That's all for now. Anymore screenshots that aren't too obvious, or too cryptic, I'll give some more analysis on. At least that gives us some insight on what the game might be like.

One more thing I'd like to mention. The backgrounds/foreground in the golden Mario pic, look great. Differential Diagnosis People......AAAH!!!

[Nintendoga]

Normally I don't care for Destructoid, but this article explains alot of reasons for why I don't like NSMB and why I think NSMB2 is bland. I really advise you all to read this long article, but knowing some of you will be like "fuck that" I'll just quote alot of things I think are the most important.

http://www.destructo...d--226709.phtml

-However, if those New Super Mario Bros. 2 screens are anything to go by, Nintendo has gotten lazy.

I consider 2005's New Super Mario Bros. as somewhat of an anomaly; as an overall package, its purpose was to reignite the same passion we felt when we played Super Mario Bros. back in 1985. Do I consider it as striking, visually or otherwise, as other Mario platformers? No, but as a reintroduction to the 2D action that had been absent for over a decade, it served its purpose. Certainly, I had hoped, New Super Mario Bros. would be the start of a new generation of inspired variety.

Remember how for months, many gamers, those who consider themselves on the pulse of the industry, honestly thought NSMB Wii was just a multiplayer version of NSMB? Is it really their fault for not paying close enough attention, or should Nintendo shoulder some of the blame for making a game that, at a casual glance, looks exactly like what folks thought it looked like? This was Mario's grand side-scrolling return to a home console, yet it was hampered by its very deliberate association with an earlier handheld title.

After playing through NSMB Wii, I was disappointed that, yes, the graphics are indeed higher-polygon, better-textured versions of the assets found in NSMB. There were no sweeping visual or thematic changes, as I've come to expect from a new Mario platformer. The worlds -- Grass, Desert, Ice, Beach, Forest, Mountains, Sky, and Fire -- are identical to those from the DS game and are even visited in nearly the same order. The backgrounds, colors, architecture, it's all the same! Where are the bizarre locales, like Giant Land and Pipe Land from Super Mario Bros. 3, or Pumpkin Zone and Mario Zone from Super Mario Land 2? Where is the imagination?

Fast-forward to the present, is New Super Mario Bros. 2 the big update we've been waiting for? With a scant four screenshots to go by, the jury is still out until E3, but the present evidence doesn't paint a rosy picture. I'm looking at the same Grass, Desert, Ice, and Forest environments from the last two games, only now Mario is rocking the Raccoon Tail, a reveal marred by the fact that it was already used as a hook for Super Mario 3D Land. Nintendo must have forgotten that it already played that trump card.

Three games in and this sub-series is failing to live up to the "New" in its moniker. I fondly recall the ever-more elaborate sprite work, rich colors, and inspired designs from one Mario to the next, yet modern Nintendo insists on sticking to a very safe, very clinical, 2.5D polygonal style that evokes none of the spirit of the old days. You don't have to be a nostalgia junkie to notice the lack of effort.

Another thing in the spoiler

The above are the three "New" titles. Wouldn't even a seasoned gamer have trouble telling the games apart from a quick glance? You'd have to know what to look for specifically, which requires a more careful observation. Oh sure, the original sports a much lower resolution, but the visual uniformity is readily apparent. And unlike the NES games, these all run on different hardware. You'd assume that Nintendo would feel some impetus to mitigate confusion.

There is one more "New" game I failed to mention: New Super Mario Bros. Mii. A remixed version of NSMB Wii with the ability to play as (duh!) Miis, it was among the Wii U "experiences" present at last year's E3. How does it stack up visually?

Take a guess! Which is Wii and which is Mii? Hard to tell without other Miis running around, huh?

To be fair, NSMB Mii wasn't pitched as an actual Wii U title. However, there will be a Wii U Mario title, and it's rumored to be based upon Mii. How different will it be? How much will remain the same? We won't know until E3, but you'll have to excuse me if I'm not brimming with confidence.

In the original Mario, you jump on a flagpole and get the flag. In 2, you lift a crystal ball and enter a bird's mouth. In 3, you run off the set and grab a flashing card. In World, you jump through a gate, timing it just right to hit the bar and earn the chance to enter a bonus stage. In Land 1, you aim for the higher of two doorways in order to enter the bonus stage. In Land 2, you try to ring the out-of-reach bell to enter the bonus stage.

In New Super Mario Bros., you... jump and get the flag. In New Super Mario Bros. Wii, you... jump and get the flag. In New Super Mario Bros. Mii, you... jump and get the flag. Even in the non-"New" Super Mario 3D Land, you jump and get the flag. We have yet to see a full stage run of New Super Mario Bros. 2, but I guarantee that you'll finish a level by jumping to get a flag. We get it, Nintendo. You guys really like your flagpoles. Care to mix it up a bit?

This is a rant about visuals, but please spare me the "gameplay over graphics" rhetoric. I know, it's odd to hear me say that. Nonetheless, when you are the leading name in a genre, the standard against which all others are measured, it's all the more important to make a good first impression. It's like how we're told to "dress for success" when coming to work -- if you don't take care of your physical appearance, how can anyone be certain that you aren't slacking in other areas? As I said in the beginning, it's a trickle-down effect; it'll eventually take its toll on other key areas, "gameplay" included.

Fuck man, I wish I could like this article.

This explains almost every reason why I hate the NSMB series, and why I think it's bland, and uninspiring, and starting to become less fun.

Just like the guy said, Nintendo's getting lazy, and eventually it's going to take a toll on the gameplay pretty soon.

Edited May 28, 2012 by Nintendoga

[Arcade Racer CC14]

Completely agreed with the article. You'd think that Nintendo would put just as much effort into their 2D games as their 3D ones. It's such a shame.

[Burnt Ash]

That's a brilliant article, that I wish Nintendo could get into their heads. Sure, innovate gameplay all you want, but at the same time, I at least want a distinction, other than the gameplay, console, name, and resolution to tell me that, yes, this is a new game, this is a title that expands upon the previous title in all areas, this is a title that doesn't visually scream repetitiveness.

Edited May 29, 2012 by Burnt Ash