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Everything in a fighting game has to be calculated and balanced against everything else, the more characters it has the longer it will take to just have in a playable state, nevermind having it actually balanced. I'm saying it's not possible or feasible to just crank out a fighting game in a short time.

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What are you talking about? OF COURSE IT DOES. Utterly and completely. Every word you say on the subject is made without a basis. You seem to think games just magically appear out of nowhere, like the physics and stuff are all done and they just have to make stages and characters. Everything in a fighting game has to be calculated and balanced against everything else, the more characters it has the longer it will take to just have in a playable state, nevermind having it actually balanced. I'm saying it's not possible or feasible to just crank out a fighting game in a short time. You're basically saying "I don't know how to make a car but they should still make me one to drive by tomorrow! It's not my job to build them!"

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Well this a Sequel to it... So we could see like 30 or more in this reach apparently. Its me.. But still, dont you think we could see around more than 30 Playables, and Tracks in the amount? And Ristar needs to be playable more!

We still don't know whether it's a sequel or not.

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If Ristar and NiGHTS aren't playable I'd be really surprised, the most difficult thing for them to do when creating new characters is to create the models, something that takes weeks to do, and both of which already exist in the game. I'm sure they'll BOTH be fully playable.

Also considering the fan requests, they were at the top of the list, and they are trying to sell this game remember. It's less work, and will please more fans. They can't lose.

I imagine this game to basically be the first, with more items, stages and characters. Hopefully they'll sort out the All-Stars for online play though.

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I still think of this game as a proper sequel, with se same core gameplay a little enhanced.

same roster with at least 10 more characters, whole bunch of new stages, some of them returning.

I hope they will make this series a little more unique than others such as Mario Kart.

the first game gameplay mechanic was a major step forward, as it is faster, funnier and more precise than Mario Kart (mostly talking about drifting), but the game kind of lacked of originality (items and overall experience)

The track design was awesome, and they should keep that, but have to expand the locations themes to more than 6 games.

Gameplay wise, as I said in an earlier post, they should increase the speed a little bit and give the player more the sense of a Rally/off road kind of experience.

Nothing to say about music and characters' animations.

They should add something original like a story mode with interaction between characters and a deeper content of extras, as well as Boss fights/Rivals races.

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Seriously if all they do is just add 10 new characters and a few new stages whilst cutting some, then the game won't be worth getting IMO.

This isn't Mario, they don't have the garaunteed sales that the mario name brings. They need to be generous and get good reviews otherwise they'll fail.

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- 10-12 more characters (32-34 in total)

- 3 vehicles per char

- around 30 tracks with 5-6 arenas (around 10 returning)

- enhanced gameplay mechanics, as well as fix framerate issues. More items, introduction of a new gimmick like my idea about collecting rings for doing SuperStar moves and Allstars moves (as I said in another post).

- better online mode, with all game modes

- grand prix also in multiplayer

- STORY MODE with interactions, and extras

- deeper "shop", where you buy characters, vehicles, stages, music and extras

- Guest Characters 3rd party

- an Extra mode where you can customize vehicle and also create them starting from parts or default models. Could be DLC

A game like this would be definitely WORTH BUYING

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- 10-12 characters isn't enough to warrent a new game. It needs at least another 18.

- Characters only need one vehicle each.

- All stages should return, and there should be 40 in total, like Mario Kart.

- The gameplay doesn't really need an overhaul, just some bug fixes and All-star's need to be able to be performed online.

- Agreed.

- Agreed.

- Story mode not really needed, but definately could be some cool extras.

- Agreed.

- DEFINATELY AGREE (I'd personally like to see Banjo, Zool and Earthworm Jim).

- Don't really need to customize vehicle, it'd end up lego blockish like Banjo Kazooie N&B.

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- 10-12 more characters (32-34 in total)

- 3 vehicles per char

- around 30 tracks with 5-6 arenas (around 10 returning)

- enhanced gameplay mechanics, as well as fix framerate issues. More items, introduction of a new gimmick like my idea about collecting rings for doing SuperStar moves and Allstars moves (as I said in another post).

- better online mode, with all game modes

- grand prix also in multiplayer

- STORY MODE with interactions, and extras

- deeper "shop", where you buy characters, vehicles, stages, music and extras

- Guest Characters 3rd party

- an Extra mode where you can customize vehicle and also create them starting from parts or default models. Could be DLC

A game like this would be definitely WORTH BUYING

- I can see like 11 Playables in it eventually, i know it aint enough like more than 12 as Anvil said, But it seems to nearly be like in ASR amonut. So i can say, Nearly Agree

- I think one vechile is what they only need.

- To Anvil, you do realize not every game have all of the stages from the last game,just some by the most.. So i can Agree to Blue on it.

- Well... the new gimmick you made is ok, and i think the only fixes they should do is the bug fixes, and ASM to be Online as well (like Anvil said)..

- Agree, they could need a fix on it (since at times, i couldnt able to join as times.)

- Would be awesome to see Multiplayer to it. smile.png

- I dont think story mode would be needed to a racing game, but like Anvil said, some cool extras would be nice.

- Agree (would be nice to more of it, but could be a bit more difficult to buy most of time)

- Agree, But if its like a Character that was on Sega made by a different company. Banjo-Kazooie would be fine to appear (if they can once again), would like to see Kirby on a Warp Star (or) Captain Falcon (as a Nintendo Exclusive), and Earthworm Jim (as a Playstation Exclusive)...

- and No, i dont see a Customize kind of one, but maybe if a color your vechile can be an ok move.

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speaking about the vehicles thing. I think that having multiple vehicles per char is the best way to please fans.

They should split the vehic into 3 categories:

On Road (car, bike)

Off Road (car, jeep, atv, bike, big vehicles...)

Hovercrafts

each of them having particular characteristics and beeing better in certain kind of terrain and so on...

almost every character should have 3 personal vehicles to chose from, we saw how good it is for Ryo in ASR to have the Forklift. I wouldn't like a ton of vehicles that can be used by every character like in Mario Kart, you would lose the the fact that every character is unique

Imagine having the Tornado Car for Tails, the one he used in Route44 in SA2 where he has to catch the President's Limo.

The STH06 Hovercraft and Jeep for Shadow

an Extreme Gear for Sonic

the "Drill car" for Eggman (Emerald Hill BOSS)

The Crazy Taxi Bike for BD Joe

The Pedicopter for Alex Kidd...

the color swap you mentioned is a very cool idea, didn't think about it ;)

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Most games that didn't include everything from a previous game would be because the sequel is on the next gen. Whereas this is most likely going to still be on 360/ps3, so there's no reason to cut anything when it's all done and because it's sega, there's no liscensing issues preventing the use.

speaking about the vehicles thing. I think that having multiple vehicles per char is the best way to please fans.

They should split the vehic into 3 categories:

On Road (car, bike)

Off Road (car, jeep, atv, bike, big vehicles...)

Hovercrafts

each of them having particular characteristics and beeing better in certain kind of terrain and so on...

almost every character should have 3 personal vehicles to chose from, we saw how good it is for Ryo in ASR to have the Forklift. I wouldn't like a ton of vehicles that can be used by every character like in Mario Kart, you would lose the the fact that every character is unique

Imagine having the Tornado Car for Tails, the one he used in Route44 in SA2 where he has to catch the President's Limo.

The STH06 Hovercraft and Jeep for Shadow

an Extreme Gear for Sonic

the "Drill car" for Eggman (Emerald Hill BOSS)

The Crazy Taxi Bike for BD Joe

The Pedicopter for Alex Kidd...

the color swap you mentioned is a very cool idea, didn't think about it wink.png

I wouldn't mind it, but it's not really neccessary. I can see maybe one or two important characters getting an extra vehicle. Or as I've previously wondered, they may do an alternate character of Sonic in a different vehicle, and call it "Classic Sonic" ala generations.

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Well, no customize vechiles, or addtionals.. But maybe only for 1 or 2 playables to have, like Ryo and Sonic for most..

But do you think color the vechile could work? just in your opinion.

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So.... we remember Meccano? The company that is aparently making ASR 2 related toys?

And how we might have two tracks already confirmed? Green Hill & Casino Night?

We might have a third one confirmed! Amazon.fr are listing the Meccano kits including a new one that hasn't yet been mentioned before. The kits are

Sonic & Rampe Green Hill (Sonic + green Hill zone) 39 Euros

Sonic & Speed Star (Sonic in his car, judging by the price difference I doubt this is a playset.) 18 Euros.

The final one... and this has a massive price tag of 86 Euros...

We might be driving around the Chemical plant zone if this listing is correct.

So thats,

Green Hill, Casino Night, Chemical Plant zone... and the game hasn't even been announced yet!

Edit:

Update: Found a listing for 'Casino Street'

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The zones, if true, are pretty disappointing.The Sonic zones at least.

Green Hill ~ Seaside Hill

Casino Night ~ Casino Park

Egg Fleet ~ Chemical Plant

Wheres the Variety Sega? Meh, I guess It can be interesting, but I would've loved more unique.

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Just gone through Amazon.fr's entire Meccano listing. I was able to find a listing for Knuckles & The Landbreaker which is also priced at just over 18 Euros, going to look through Amazon UK now to see if theres anything there. However I don't think we'll get any pictures for a while yet.

Although if Amazon have these listings, other stores may start putting them up very soon.

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chemical plant? the thing that makes the level is the soundtrack, this inclusion leaves me neutral.

So we have

Green Hill

Casino Night

Chemical Plant

they can be pretty different from Seaside Hill, Casino Street and Egg Fleet if SUMO play their cards correctly

the Sonic stages I really want to see now are:

Ice Cap

Emerald Coast

Pumpkin Hill

Apotos

White Park

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The issue I see with colour customization is how it would look. They've specially designed these vehicles to match the people driving them. For instance: Sonic has a blue car, and B.D. Joe has his trademark cab. So if Sonic was driving a hot pink car and B.D. Joe was driving a Bright Green cab, it would look a bit out of place.

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So if Sonic was driving a hot pink car and B.D. Joe was driving a Bright Green cab, it would look a bit out of place.

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There'd be nothing wrong with it, just not something they should plough time into.

EDIT: Wait am I missing something? Have they already announced: Green Hill, Casino Night and Chemical Plant for the new game?

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There'd be nothing wrong with it, just not something they should plough time into.

EDIT: Wait am I missing something? Have they already announced: Green Hill, Casino Night and Chemical Plant for the new game?

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EDIT: Wait am I missing something? Have they already announced: Green Hill, Casino Night and Chemical Plant for the new game?

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And i wanna see Ristar as a playable! ^^ i know i say it, but i just do alot.

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