REMINDER: Last chance to get a free Sonic Heroes profile gift! Join or check into the 52 Game Challenge to earn it! 0 replies
Scar Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Going away from this discussion, one thing in that sort of bothers me in the new interview is Iizuka saying, "This game is supposed to show the whole history of Sonic, that's why it's not important to implement new ideas." Although it is sort of funny. Another quote showing Iizuka's great interviewing skills. He is, regrettably, right on this one. Had something bombstically new been introduced in this game, then could you imagine the complaints? With a game like this, designed to take the very best of 20 years of Sonic, it is important that they aren't too reckless or heavy-handed with new ideas. It is easy to ruin nostalgia. Sonic 4 and the introduction of the homing attack, is the perfect example of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyant Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 (edited) If I remember correctly Chemical Plant from Sonic 2 (my favorite Sonic game) consisted of me just running fast (Down Hallways) most of the time....the fact that Modern Sonic has that many alternate options right from the get go is crazy...I did not expect that at all since I knew Chemical Plant was to be a stage to show off the Speed in the game. Sonic 2's "hallways" were quite empty...there were barely any enemies in that stage. Edited August 23, 2011 by Voyant 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXshad Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 I'm happy you guys are happy with the 3D sections. I'm sorry if I'm coming off controversial or something by not liking them myself, but I can't change the way I feel :-/ I ain't trying to get you to change your opinion heck, I can honestly level with a lot of gripes people have with it. I'm just trying to find the root as to why it's so.. well, not hated, but frowned upon, to say the least. I'll admit: I'm not a fan of Modern Green Hill because invisible walls inhibit any sense of exploration, but beyond that, the other Modern levels look solid to me! With a sprinkle of open exploration with a dash of linear, high-speed running, a pinch of 2D platforming, and finally a slash of plenty of alternate routes to make it really feel like an all-around, all-purpose Sonic experience. Like I said, if I were at the helm, and there was just one Sonic playable, I would have made platforming even MORE of a focus, but the purpose of this game is to show 2 Sonics, both as different as possible, and making Modern Sonic the way he plays now is Sonic Team's best way to do that. That is my firm belief on the matter. Again, it all just comes down to opinion I suppose. You can please some people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time. Likewise, some stuff almost always makes some people happy, but usually, everything isn't going to make everyone happy. It's just how this shit works =/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcello Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 (edited) Shadzter: The drift is definitely better. It doesn't send you flying anymore. It's actually useful. And it's fun to use in straight lines, pretending to be rolling( drunkly) He is, regrettably, right on this one. Had something bombstically new been introduced in this game, then could you imagine the complaints? With a game like this, designed to take the very best of 20 years of Sonic, it is important that they aren't too reckless or heavy-handed with new ideas. It is easy to ruin nostalgia. Sonic 4 and the introduction of the homing attack, is the perfect example of this. Eh, I guess, but I was thinking along the lines of Classic Sonic's skateboard, althought the newness of this is somewhat arguable. I'd have loved small new powerups, level gimmicks etc. And I wish they would've added the Insta-Shield. Edited August 23, 2011 by MarcelloF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azoo Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Seriously, guys. Isn't this supposed to be Chemical Plant of all things? You know, the supposedly fastest stage in the classics (bar Stardust Speedway, which is paired right with it for the Metal Sonic boss)? And even then, there is alternate paths out of the wazoo. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frokenok3 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Shadzter: The drift is definitely better. It doesn't sendy you flying anymore. It's actually useful. And it's fun to use in straight lines, pretending to be rolling( drunkly) Eh, I guess, but I meant stuff along the lines of Classic Sonic's skateboard, althought the newness of this is somewhat arguable. I'd have loved small new powerups, level gimmicks etc. And I wish they would've added the Insta-Shield. Arguable cause of Sonic triple trouble. I'd like to have the insta-shield too even though i didn't use it at all back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHCast Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Is it just me or are the classic stages more linear than the others? Seriously this better not happen with SKY FREKIN SANCTUARY!! Also Spagonia and seaside hill look like they'll have there 3d moments. In total how many seconds of both of those have we've seen? I think those ones will surprise us with lots of 3d areas. Especially seaside hill/ocean palace look at the original. They did that with CE and it plays better. They might have looked at the original ssh/op and made it better than the original. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autoburstfire Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 (edited) Is it just me or are the classic stages more linear than the others? Seriously this better not happen with SKY FREKIN SANCTUARY!! Nah mate, if S-Team are on the job it'll probably be composed of massive bottomless pits and spontaneously collapsing footholds At first, I lol'd, but then I remembered kingdom valley from 06... Edited August 23, 2011 by Autoburstfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoseR Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 I think Chemical Plant looks pretty raw if I say so myself.. Also I'm glad CO-OP is confirmed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autoburstfire Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Yeah, Chemical Plant is definitely not as linear as Green Hill was looking at the footage again. Of course getting those subtle alternate paths looks about as tough as the original's difficulty spike. xD But I'm definitely digging the final egg vibe moderns gives off. And Co-op wasn't exactly confirmed, the fact that characters will appear in mini-games of sorts was. We have no idea what that implementation is however... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNTER297 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Yeah, Chemical Plant is definitely not as linear as Green Hill was looking at the footage again. Of course getting those subtle alternate paths looks about as tough as the original's difficulty spike. xD But I'm definitely digging the final egg vibe moderns gives off. And Co-op wasn't exactly confirmed, the fact that characters will appear in mini-games of sorts was. We have no idea what that implementation is however... He did say that they can appear in missions or minigames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Blood Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 I think Chemical Plant looks pretty raw if I say so myself.. Also I'm glad CO-OP is confirmed! Now be unglad that is wasn't confirmed. There's no multiplayer, as has been confirmed many times, other characters just show up during particular missions. Sometime they work with your, sometime you work against them. For example... in C.Green Hill you race against Knuckles, and in M.Green Hill you work with Tails in the Tornado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazyBean Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 (edited) Guys, great news...according to Nero Angel (a member of the SEGA Forums), spindashing for Classic Sonic CANNOT be spammed! If you attempt to spindash using the quick method whilst running (Square button for PS3 and X button for 360) you'll end up doing a roll instead of a spindash! This is what he said THis is me playing Sonic Generations at GC. Sorry, for bad Quality, my brother wasn't able hold the camera still. Most bugs from the Old Demo are fixed! But the game has some Input Delay, So I haven't played like I wanted. And now most important: Yes, you can press square to spin dash, BUT YOU CAN'T use it while you are in motion, If you are in motion, you begin to ROLL!!! And if you don't believe me, WATCH THE VIDEO AGAIN, or better the part from 4:55 TO 5:02 and you see him ROLLING IN THIS SEGMENT! and I pressed SQAURE to do so! Now you have to physically STOP Sonic before using a spindash, even if it's the Classic or Quick way! Awesome. Edited August 23, 2011 by KrazyBean14 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autoburstfire Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 He did say that they can appear in missions or minigames. Erm... not to be snarky but that's kinda what I said... Unless mini-game based cameos is your idea of 'co-op' I suppose. Now be unglad that is wasn't confirmed. There's no multiplayer, as has been confirmed many times, other characters just show up during particular missions. Sometime they work with your, sometime you work against them. For example... in C.Green Hill you race against Knuckles, and in M.Green Hill you work with Tails in the Tornado. Oily moly... When did these interesting specifics show up? Is there a source I missed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNTER297 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Erm... not to be snarky but that's kinda what I said... Unless mini-game based cameos is your idea of 'co-op' I suppose. Noone said Tails would be in Tornado durning his co-op mission. Those missions are msissions for stages not minigames. Its like in SA2. But yeah no multiplayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazyBean Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 (edited) LOL, sorry I forgot...here's the video...for some reason it wouldn't let me post it in my old post when I was editing it. Edited August 23, 2011 by KrazyBean14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Blood Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Oily moly... When did these interesting specifics show up? Is there a source I missed? That's the mission information from the demo. I'll try and find the complete list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autoburstfire Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Er, I guess I'm fine with that. One or two is good to know to get a feel of the rest. Doesn't necessitate me spoiling myself that much though. xD Although I would be interested in knowing if any of them are head to head fights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Blood Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 (edited) Er, I guess I'm fine with that. One or two is good to know to get a feel of the rest. Doesn't necessitate me spoiling myself that much though. xD Although I would be interested in knowing if any of them are head to head fights. The entire list is below if you do want to see it. I made a mistake though. M.Green Hill is a VS match too (though it is still seemingly Tails in the Torndao as textures would imply). There are head to head fights, but they're in the form of boss/rival battles instead of missions. The first these is, as officially revealed, Metal Sonic. CLASSIC GREEN HILL ZONE Mission 1: Sonic Ghost (beat the time attack ghost) Mission 2: Beaton (that's the fish badniks) Mission 3: Vs Knuckles Mission 4: Swings (likely involving the Green Hill swings) Mission 5: High Speed MODERN GREEN HILL ZONE: Mission 1: Ordered Dash Ring Mission 2: VS Tails Mission 3: Sonic ghost Mission 4: Jump Jump Jump! Mission 5: 300% Boost CLASSIC CHEMICAL PLANT ZONE Mission 1: Co-Op Tails (tails co-op partner?) Mission 2: Recue the Animals Mission 3: Aqua Barrier (Bubble shield~) Mission 4: Sonic Ghost Mission 5: Invincibility MODERN CHEMICAL PLANT ZONE Mission 1: One Ring Mission 2: Sonic Ghost Mission 3: Co-Op Amy Mission 4: Grabber (those spider robots from Chemical Plant) Mission 5: Sprinkler in Water CLASSIC SKY SANCTUARY ZONE Mission 1: Sonic Ghost Mission 2: Eggrobo Mission 3: Round Platform Mission 4: Enemy Rings (WHAT!? Likely has to do with Motobug monitor) Mission 5: VS. Amy MODERN SKY SANCTUARY ZONE Mission 1: VS Knuckles Mission 2: 200% Boost Mission 3: Balloon Mission 4: Sonic Ghost Mission 5: Fast Tempo CLASSICSPEED HIGHWAY Mission 1: VS Cream Mission 2: Keep Moving! Mission 3: High Speed Mission 4: Many Copspeeders (those race-car robot monkies from Adventure) Mission 5: Sonic Ghost MODERN SPEED HIGHWAY Mission 1: Drift Mission 2: Keep Moving! Mission 3: Sonic ghost Mission 4: Driller (?) Mission 5: VS Espio CLASSIC CITY ESCAPE Mission 1: Sk8Board Mission 2: Thunder Barrier Mission 3: VS Rouge Mission 4: Sonic ghost Mission 5: Half a Spring MODERN CITY ESCAPE Mission 1: Vs Cream Mission 2: Ordered Dash Ring Mission 3: Truck Mission 4: Fast Tempo Mission 5: Sonic Ghost CLASSIC SEASIDE HILL Mission 1: Rescue Animals Mission 2: Sonic Ghost Mission 3: Co-op Espio Mission 4: Fast Tempo Mission 5: In Water MODERN SEASIDE HILL Mission 1: Co-Op Rouge Mission 2: Sonic ghost Mission 3: Rainbow rings Mission 4: Sea Turtle in the Sky Mission 5: Giant Batabata CLASSIC CRISIS CITY Mission 1: Sonic Ghost Mission 2: Goal Plate Juggling Mission 3: Co-Op Vector Mission 4: Flame Barrier Mission 5: Enemy Rings MODERN CRISIS CITY Mission 1: Stomping Mission 2: Sonic ghost Mission 3: Switch Mission 4: Co-Op Blaze Mission 5: Select Canon CLASSIC ROOFTOP RUN Mission 1: Sonic Ghost Mission 2: Egg Fighter Mission 3: Ordered Dash Ring Mission 4: VS Charmy Mission 5: High Speed MODERN ROOFTOP RUN Mission 1: Rolling Barrel Mission 2: Sonic Ghost Mission 3: Sk8Board (so it returns in this stage?) Mission 4: Endless Boost Mission 5: VS Vector CLASSIC PLANET WISP Mission 1: Fast Temp Pink Spike Mission 2: Sonic Ghost Mission 3: Goal Plate Juggling Mission 4: Vs Blaze Mission 5: Sprinkler (those were the things in Planet wisp that spewed either spikes or rings) MODERN PLANET WISP Mission 1: Sonic Ghost Mission 2: Tram Mission 3: Co-Op Charmy Mission 4- Every Skill Mission 5: Orange Rocket Rival Boss: Metal Sonic Extra Mission: Difficult Mode Rival Boss: Shadow Extra Mission: Difficult Mode Rival Boss Silver Extra Mission: Difficult Mode Boss: Death Egg Extra Mission: Difficult Mode Boss: Perfect Chaos Extra Mission: Difficult Mode Boss: Egg Dragoon Extra Mission: Difficult Mode Boss: Last Boss "Time Eater" Extra Mission: Difficult Mode Edited August 23, 2011 by Blue Blood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatguyfrom03 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Guys, great news...according to Nero Angel (a member of the SEGA Forums), spindashing for Classic Sonic CANNOT be spammed! If you attempt to spindash using the quick method whilst running (Square button for PS3 and X button for 360) you'll end up doing a roll instead of a spindash! This is what he said Now you have to physically STOP Sonic before using a spindash, even if it's the Classic or Quick way! Awesome. Nope. This little Spin Dash spammer says other wise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBOlgVUL19E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazyBean Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Nope. This little Spin Dash spammer says other wise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBOlgVUL19E .........Goddammit. What was that guy going on about then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHCast Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Nope. This little Spin Dash spammer says other wise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBOlgVUL19E JEEZ! Omochao is fast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balding Spider Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 I knew it! If you did have to stop to use that spam/spindash than it would've already been mentioned by any number of Sonic fans that got to play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatguyfrom03 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 .........Goddammit. What was that guy going on about then? Welcome to the internet. Home of liars, trolls, and people that don't really know what they're talking about. Got my hopes up too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balding Spider Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 @Krazybean14, hey atleast you can throw this video in his face. I'm sure that'll raise one or two interesting responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.png.58cfe414f117a5b917dfc7f637393e58.png)
.jpg.d3f7d7b674e3815bea1a6a879ad242f0.thumb.jpg.e614d3322d46c7e7d76b327db861fbd6.jpg)
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now