SEGA's 2012 Plans?

[Indigo Rush]

Let me guess, your uncle works at SEGA?

Mhm.

[Ming Ming Hatsune]

On January 16,2012 Kabushiki Kaisha Sega filed a trademark for "Orbi" read the long trademark and judge for yourself what it is:

*junk*

Sega paid a $4,000 fee for immediate registration. So that means the mark will be processed and used.

It's a new company.

Plus SEGA has 2 dozen digital only IPs in development such as Dark Bringer, Banana Splitz and Fallen Relms.

Edited March 14, 2012 by Ming Ming Love

[RE2010]

....what in the world did I just read?

Edited March 14, 2012 by RE2010

[BlazingTales]

You read the trademarking of a new multimedia commerce and multi industrial company that Kabushiki Kaisha Sega is forming.

Prove me wrong. Please try to.

[Match]

We'll prove you wrong as soon as you post your sources.

[Ming Ming Hatsune]

You read the trademarking of a new multimedia commerce and multi industrial company that Kabushiki Kaisha Sega is forming.

Prove me wrong. Please try to.

[sonfan1984]

No, not this again. Ignore him guys.

[Guest]

This.

http://www.trademark...i-85517210.html

logo also

EDIT : Ninja'd Dx and no, i'm not trying to prove anything but just to find it =) so i'm not sure if its legit

Edited March 14, 2012 by Guest

[Ming Ming Hatsune]

Though I can you guys this: SEGA of Japan has NO interest in the Wii U. SEGA is also changing its entire 3rd party platform business structure to mainly digital,mobile and PC only, and SEGASammy will be disbanded by the end of the year as SEGA is forming an alliance with a new company. Which will be a......I've said too much

Edited March 14, 2012 by Ming Ming Love

[Indigo Rush]

So I did some research, and....

...yeah. SEGA's not making a new console.

[Carbo]

RE2010, if I see another "my uncle works at Sega" type post with tons of unrelated, unnecessary copyright shit that I'm convinced you have no fucking idea of how it works, I'm banning you. Full stop. I removed your last post on account of how fucking embarrassing it is to have around. Now quit the fucking bickering.

[Indigo Rush]

It's not like most of us don't want a new SEGA console. I mean, hey, the Genesis and Dreamcast were awesome. But sometimes you just have to let it go. The Orbi thing is probably just another arcade patent like RingEdge. A new Dreamcast is just not gonna happen.

That being said, I think that SEGA's actual plans are as Iizuka himself said, which is re-inventing 3D Sonic. Again. As to how much re-invention this entails, we can't really say. I'm not sure they even know the full scope. I'm even willing to be we won't see it until as far as 2013. Either way, a new 3D Sonic game is certainly in the works. I hope they take their time on it without pressuring themselves with any deadlines... that kind of stuff has been around since Sonic 2, it caused Adventure to be sub-par, it nearly killed the franchise in 2006, and Generations could have been even better as well.

But that's my take.

Edited March 14, 2012 by Indigo Rush

[RE2010]

Okay so the "so-called" trademark is legit. But I'm still trying to get my head around how that and THIS quote are related. Sega changing the entire 3rd party platform business to digital, mobile and PC only? Are you living in a dreamworld? Are you drunk while you made this post?

Sega ignoring the console business where they get most of their money from? Stop pulling crap from your ass. I know you're new and speculating, but you are becoming a joke here.

SegaSammy's financials from 2008-2010 has stated again and again, that the company is NOT profiting on non digital properties.

http://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/ir/library/pdf/printing_annual/2009/e_2009_annual.pdf

http://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/ir/library/pdf/printing_annual/2010/e_2010_annual.pdf

http://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/ir/library/pdf/printing_annual/2008/e_2008_annual.pdf

Nagoshi, and plenty of other Sega and plenty of have recently stated in online interviews with Gamestra,MvC and Computergames.com that digital content is the future of Sega. I'll find the links to these reviews from last month,later.

SEGASammy's profit is not coming from overseas software, but from domestic amusement arcade,pachinko slot and toy sales.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/sega-sammys-game-business-weighing-down-earnings-6349735

Sonic Generations sold 1 million worldwide in 2011. Far less than what it could have.(Thanks, Call of Duty. Sarcasm) Globally even solid hits like Bayonetta,Vanquish aren't even moving strong sales and couldn't even hit 2 million globally.

Sonic 4 Episode 1 fared very strongly as a DLC. But SEGA never revealed its numbers.

SEGA Sammy has not announced a single new mutiplatform optical project at all and their fiscal for 2011 is already due.

These are some of SEGA's upcoming projects:

http://www.trademark...r-79105191.html

http://www.trademark...s-79106628.html

http://www.trademark...z-79108442.html

All 3 of these are reported to be Android projects.

And in case you still don't believe me about SEGA going digital ony:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/sega-games-headed-to-eas-origin-store-6366200

So I did some research, and....

...yeah. SEGA's not making a new console.

I never said or implied that they were.

So you don't think they are forming a new company? Because they obviously are. I'm sorry you have to resort to flaming and putting words in my mouth just because you think that ANY one that speculates on SEGA is implying a new console, when I'm not.

Edited March 14, 2012 by RE2010

[PSI Wind]

Though I can you guys this: SEGA of Japan has NO interest in the Wii U.

http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=173651

"The Wii was an extremely successful platform. It was totally global. It went into the families that maybe would not have picked up a home console before. It created that living room experience with families, and it had great success. Now, adding the controller, and in a sense upgrading the Wii, it has got potential to further that and increase its customer base. I feel Sonic is the right fit because it is that kind of family experience game. I do feel Wii U is applicable to Sonic. But how we will apply using the controller to Sonic is something we're still thinking about at the moment." - SEGA's Takashi Iizuka

[Scar]

SegaSammy's financials from 2008-2010 has stated again and again, that the company is NOT profiting on non digital properties.

Nagoshi, and plenty of other Sega and plenty of have recently stated in online interviews with Gamestra,MvC and Computergames.com that digital content is the future of Sega. I'll find the links to these reviews from last month,later.

Sonic Generations sold 1 million worldwide in 2011. Far less than what it could have.(Thanks, Call of Duty. Sarcasm) Globally even solid hits like Bayonetta,Vanquish aren't even moving strong sales and couldn't even hit 2 million globally.

Sonic 4 Episode 1 fared very strongly as a DLC. But SEGA never revealed its numbers.

SEGA Sammy has not announced a single new mutiplatform optical project at all and their fiscal for 2011 is already due.

These are some of SEGA's upcoming projects:

http://www.trademark...r-79105191.html

http://www.trademark...s-79106628.html

http://www.trademark...z-79108442.html

All 3 of these are reported to be Android projects.

I never said or implied that they were.

So you don't think they are forming a new company? Because they obviously are. I'm sorry you have to resort to flaming and putting words in my mouth just because you think that ANY one that speculates on SEGA is implying a new console, when I'm not.

Give it a rest already.

And if it isn't a console, then what is it that you're talking about? This Orbi thing could well just turn out to be a development studio, similar to Platinum Games, or Sonic Team, which is of course nothing special these days, even if its just for ARM/Smartphone games.

Edited March 14, 2012 by Scar

[Jetronic]

Ok let me say this, if Sega really wanted to get into the home console business again, they would have done it over 10 years ago and not jump into 3rd party. They would have done it a long time ago, they're still making arcade hardware, it's different from what you're getting at.

They're making their games and profiting very much, even with their games coming on PC as well. Just look at CD and Generations, they sold damn well. They're making plenty of money with how they're rolling now, so them jumping and wasting a huge load of cash by jumping ship again would only hurt them. They're not going to do that.

[sonfan1984]

I like how you're completely ignoring Carbo's warning to knock it off.

[Kuzu]

Is he banned yet?

[Scar]

I like how you're completely ignoring Carbo's warning to knock it off.

Yeah, you're right, we should stop now.

[Ming Ming Hatsune]

SegaSammy's financials from 2008-2010 has stated again and again, that the company is NOT profiting on non digital properties.

Nagoshi, and plenty of other Sega and plenty of have recently stated in online interviews with Gamestra,MvC and Computergames.com that digital content is the future of Sega. I'll find the links to these reviews from last month,later.

Sonic Generations sold 1 million worldwide in 2011. Far less than what it could have.(Thanks, Call of Duty. Sarcasm) Globally even solid hits like Bayonetta,Vanquish aren't even moving strong sales and couldn't even hit 2 million globally.

Sonic 4 Episode 1 fared very strongly as a DLC. But SEGA never revealed its numbers.

SEGA Sammy has not announced a single new mutiplatform optical project at all and their fiscal for 2011 is already due.

These are some of SEGA's upcoming projects:

http://www.trademark...r-79105191.html

http://www.trademark...s-79106628.html

http://www.trademark...z-79108442.html

All 3 of these are reported to be Android projects.

I never said or implied that they were.

So you don't think they are forming a new company? Because they obviously are. I'm sorry you have to resort to flaming and putting words in my mouth just because you think that ANY one that speculates on SEGA is implying a new console, when I'm not.

I can see the banhammer. It's coming close. To you.

Please, we don't care. Drop the subject.

[RE2010]

I can see the banhammer. It's coming close. To you.

Please, we don't care. Drop the subject.

Okay, I will. You hate me. Don't you.

Give it a rest already.

And if it isn't a console, then what is it that you're talking about? This Orbi thing could well just turn out to be a development studio, similar to Platinum Games, or Sonic Team, which is of course nothing special these days, even if its just for ARM/Smartphone games.

A new conglomorate. A new multi commerce company. According to the trademark document that has 500 listed different descriptions and 14 different International Classes.

But since everyone here is clearly out to lynch me, I won't discuss it.

[Badnik Mechanic]

A new conglomorate. A new multi commerce company. According to the trademark document that has 500 listed different descriptions and 14 different International Classes.

But since everyone here is clearly out to lynch me, I won't discuss it.

Or... it's something to do with all the arcade machines that Sega tends to make which don't ever make it outside of Japan. Just like it was when people spotted new paten designs for lightguns and joysticks which ended up being used on an arcade machine about a year or two ago.

Usually when people visit the trademark websites or patent officers or whatever, and they find some new hardware or a new thing which has Sega written by it, it's usually something to do with their arcade division and has nothing to do with their console side at all, and by console I'm talking video game production... since last time I looked, Sega don't have the money or the production centres to publish a worldwide console, thats even before you start talking about the logistics of any company creating a new console.

In fact, other than maybe one or two mobile phone companies, heck or even google. The only other company that I could possibly see making a console which doesn't flop in it's first 3 months would be Virgin, and thats because it happens to have a rather rich eccentric at the helm.

Edit: In fact it probably is to do with Segas Arcade division, lets not forget how it was only a month ago they were at and they had the most dominant presence there.

Edited March 14, 2012 by Hogfather

[Scar]

Okay, I will. You hate me. Don't you.

Nobody hates you, so stop acting like you're a victim.

A new conglomorate. A new multi commerce company. According to the trademark document that has 500 listed different descriptions and 14 different International Classes.

Well forgive our skepticism, but it doesn't doesn't seem likely that SEGA will form a whole new conglomerate.Even if they did, as Hoggy pointed out above, its probably related to their arcade division. If its a digital distribution company or something (which is what you're alluding to), it will be stomped into the dirt by Steam and Origin.

But since everyone here is clearly out to lynch me, I won't discuss it.

Nobody hates you, so stop acting like you're a victim.

Edited March 14, 2012 by Scar

[DaN]

with Shenmue and Skies of Arcadia HD edition rumored there's going to be A LOT of money in for SEGA

[Tornado]

Sonic Generations sold 1 million worldwide in 2011. Far less than what it could have.(Thanks, Call of Duty. Sarcasm) Globally even solid hits like Bayonetta,Vanquish aren't even moving strong sales and couldn't even hit 2 million globally.

If Sega sold nearly 2 million copies of Bayonetta and Vanquish and a million copies of Generations and still lost money on all three, then they clearly haven't learned anything from Shenmue and don't really deserve to stay in business.