The Amazing Spider Man (Comic Series)

[Speederino]

So I've started reading from #1 again...have no idea if I'll really end up going through with reading everything again, but we'll see. I should at least read through Spectacular, since I've actually never done that.

I had forgotten how often these early issues either tie in with or include cameos of the Fantastic Four. Stan Lee and Steve Ditko were clearly using their success with that to try to sell Spider-Man to the public.

...Which I find absolutely hilarious, because I don't think anyone really cares about the Fantastic Four anymore. I mean really, does anyone here buy Fantastic Four or know anyone who does?

BTW, just started reading #5 and realized something: if Flash Thomson and his gang are supposed to be the bane of Peter's high school existence...then why are they *always* hanging out together or inviting Peter along with them?

Edited July 14, 2012 by Speederino

[Ducktor Naldush]

...Which I find absolutely hilarious, because I don't think anyone really cares about the Fantastic Four anymore. I mean really, does anyone here buy Fantastic Four or know anyone who does?

...Well...as a matter of fact... I do. The Thing is my favourite Marvel character, with Spidey being a close second.

Edited July 14, 2012 by Azure Nald

[Speederino]

...Well...as a matter of fact... I do. The Thing is my favourite Marvel character, with Spidey being a close second.

Ah. Okey dokey then

Actually, I read the first thirty issues of Ultimate FF and rather enjoyed it. But I have no idea what's going on with regular FF, and I never hear anyone talk about it.

[turbojet]

Just read the new Ultimate Spider-man and I read someone here say that they don't buy them monthly because the pacing is slow.

Right now, I'd tell you to buy up to 12 because shit just got real.

Also, did anyone see the red headed girl peeping at Miles. Oh snap. The media is going to go bonkers if Miles ends up with a white girl. So much racism, so little time.

Spider-men is pretty awesome as well. 616 decides to visit Ultimate Peter Parker's home and finds an alive Gwen Stacey and a younger Aunt May. It was pretty damn cathartic.

Edited July 14, 2012 by turbojet

[Ducktor Naldush]

Also, did anyone see the red headed girl peeping at Miles. Oh snap. The media is going to go bonkers if Miles ends up with a white girl. So much racism, so little time.

I don't get it. What's wrong with a black guy dating a white girl? That's something I never understood in American comic-books. Black guys only with black women ( like Black Panther and Storm) and white guys with white women. In this day and age, is someone really going to be scandalized? I mean, poor Miles has gone through hell, give the guy some slack.

Edited July 14, 2012 by Azure Nald

[turbojet]

Depends.

I personally do not care(Black guy dating a Latina here). But let's there are plenty of unfortunate implications involving perspective of beauty and what not.

[Ducktor Naldush]

Read the 3rd issue of Spider-Men. I don't have any clue of what happened in the Ultimate universe before the introduction of Miles, but the last page is building up for something heart-wrenching.

[PeanutButterDimond]

I've never been too deep in to Spider-Man comicsbut I do know a decent bit due to TVtropes and reading forums. Recently I have been collecting volumes f Ultimate Spiderman and I bought a few issues of Amazing(The first and third End of Days issues) and subscribed to Amazing.

Amazing is reallty good from what I have been reading. I realy like the art and the writing and I have been actually hearing good things about Dan Slott's run so it's kind of surprising to see somehate for it considering i have heard praise for it before on this very board. But, yeah, I really am liking what I have read of Amazing but sadly I have had trouble of getting issue two of End of Days and my subscription is late. But I'm liking it. That and Dan Slott seems to be a cool guy. I've seen him post on forums and talki about the characters and express dislike for the ending of Peter and Mary Jane's marraige. There was actually a really good conversation between him and a few other writers for Amazing about the end of the marriage that was posted on a thread he frequents. It was pretty intense as people on both sides kind of tore in to eachother.

Ultimate is amazing. I mean, it just kicks ass and never ever stops kicking. Say what you want about Gobby but the fantastic art, grounded consistantly good writing, likeable chariterizations and the beautifully done contrast between the lives of Peter and Spider-man had me hooked in the series on a constant basis. i would get two volumes a week and read through them as soon as i got home. It ws so great to see the new film take elements from it and nail down the contrast that Ultimate pulls off beautifully.

[Balding Spider]

Read the 3rd issue of Spider-Men. I don't have any clue of what happened in the Ultimate universe before the introduction of Miles.

Loeb destroyed the Ultimate line by killing off the majority of heroes villians and supporting characters such as Wolverine, happy hogan, the Wasp, most of the X-men team, Doctor Doom, ect.

The Mutants learn that they're not the next step in evolution but the products of human experimantations.

Reed Richards turned evil killed his family and tried to sell out the planet to an alien race. And recently returned to create the world of the future by destroying anything that got in his way.

Thor is now the last remaining Asguardian currently alive thanks to Reed.

All mutants are being hunted down by by crazed robots and placed in camps.

[Balding Spider]

Figured I'd post this here since it does in fact have to do with spider-man as well as other characters.

Honestly I'm sour on the majority of this. I don't mind Wolverines, Rocket Racoons, or The invisible womans designs at all since (Rocket aside) they've been sporting these looks for some time. And Rocket just looks like he out of GG uniform. That aside I'm not really enjoying what I'm seeing here.

I mean some of these designs seem so stupid and pointless.

Why the hell does Thor need two swords when he has the all powerfull mjiorlnir? Does it run out of power now or somethin'?

Then the Hulk has armor.... why someone whose skin is strong enough to withstand the burn of planetary atmosphere need armor? That's as dumb as say Superman wearing armor.

Cyclops has a giant X head laser now which he shouldn't be able to see out of...nothing more needs to be said.

I already wasnt a fan of the Avengers costume of Captain America, but with this version it really looks like they couldn't make up their minds. It's like they took the Ultimate, First Avenger, and The Avengers versions of this costume and blended them together. It honestly looks like theres too much going on in this costume, and come across as messy.

As for Spider-man and Iron man I'm just meh on this. Iron man has a new color, and Spider-man has lost his red arm stripes.....which reminds me of the crappy Ultimate Spider-man from the cartoon! SONOFA-

Edit: Just noticed Spider-mans mask now has pupils and it looks fucking creepy.

Edited July 28, 2012 by Balding Spider

[Speederino]

If you don't mind me asking, what exactly am I looking at here? A new series, Avengers, a showcase for a bunch of new costumes, promo art...what?

[Balding Spider]

If you don't mind me asking, what exactly am I looking at here? A new series, Avengers, a showcase for a bunch of new costumes, promo art...what?

I think it's just for showing off some new costumes and to lead up to other new stuff happening for the marvel universe.

Right now I'm glad I'm only reading three titles right now.

Edited July 28, 2012 by Balding Spider

[pppp]

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/at4w/36077-at4w-200th-episode

Well guys Linkara finally caved in and decided to review the worst Spidey comic ever made.

It's a 2 part spectacular.

[Mangoaxe5]

Spider-Man's awesome.

Too bad Marvel ruined him in the comics with the One More Day storyline.

[turbojet]

Linkara, I will buy him a drink for literally saying word for word how I feel about Spider-man.

[Speederino]

http://thatguywithth...w-200th-episode

Well guys Linkara finally caved in and decided to review the worst Spidey comic ever made.

It's a 2 part spectacular.

That is officially my favorite episode of AT4W. It's not often that Linkara reviews something I've actually read, and in this case it happened to be something I hate just as much as him, if not more so.

It also explains why he was asking people on Twitter a couple weeks back if Spidey had ever been dimension-hopping. And I was so, *so* happy to hear him address that, because that bit about Spidey "not believing in alternate timelines" has always bugged the shit out of me. Quesada Whoever wrote that line clearly didn't do the fucking research. It's like Harry Potter saying he doesn't believe in unicorns. It may not be something he deals with on a regular basis, but he'd have to be an idiot to not believe in them.

Edited August 1, 2012 by Speederino

[turbojet]

Ultimate Spider-man aka Miles Morales.

Remember last year when they revealed this guy?

No one knew what he looked like, but everyone said his costume was cool. The costume is pretty swank. And then, they revealed his face.

...Oh shit. Well, this will be a shit storm. Black man replaces white male. Glenn Beck is going to be all over this shit. And there was so much public backlash and hatred for this character. I was mad because I really liked Ultimate Peter Parker, and killing him off meant that there would be no one to live the Spider-man spirit anymore after they cancelled Spectacular Spider-man, 616 Spidey is shit, and shit sucks. And then the backlash pretty much justified why we needed a Black Spider-man(Do not say that he is Hispanic because that is not a race, it is an ethnicity). But I wondered if they could ever pull the character off and even if they could, it is an uphill battle. Even I was cynical at first, and then Brian Bendis worked his magic.

Before we get into Miles, lets talk about the Ultimate Spider-man run as a whole. Save Ultamatum(Loeb wrote this so that should tell you something), there is not one bad issue in the series. Not a one. Before you get the idea that the cartoon is anything like the comic book series, no. Hell no. For one, Peter is wittier and a shit ton more serious about being a super hero. He is more responsible than his counterpart in 616. In fact, you actually get to know Uncle Ben before he dies(I also like to note that his speech about Great Responsibility is word for word re-quoted in the Amazing Spider-man movie). So you feel the hurt. Peter goes through a shit ton of teenager stuff such as having "The Talk" to his girlfriend.

In hindsight, Mary Jane probably should have lost her virginity that night.

Anyways, Bendis is a fantastic writer if not a bit slow on developing characters. Every character save for Flash Thompson is well-developed. You remember Kong from Spectacular? Yeah, Weisman took that character from this series and made him relevant. So, it was pretty awesome and still is. He is also a bit of a motor mouth and a smart ass.

So what does that have to do with Miles? Miles is Spider-man without the oddities. I say oddities such as Peter being an orphan, being super intelligent(at one point, he walked out of class saying that he could teach it better than the teacher), or his entire origin being centered around his lack of inaction that led to the death of Uncle Ben. Why is Miles Spider-man? He was bit by a spider that his thief Uncle coincidentally stole from Oscorp unknowingly, realized that Peter,who was alive at the time, experienced the same thing, tried with much encouragement from his best friend, Ganke, to do the Super hero thing and was scared shitless so he decided to let Peter be Spider-man while he lived out his life as a student. Then, Spider-man died. Miles feels that if he went out and contacted Peter or at least tried to help him, Peter would still be alive. Now he feels that it was his destiny to be Spider-man and is trying to live up to Peter's example to do the right thing.

Okay, that was a mouthful. Look at what that says about the character, Miles Morales. It says that he is timid(he did not want to be Spider-man and is reasonable scared that he might die). He has parents who are involved in his life. Miles is a shit ton more relate able than Peter since he is not doing this in spite of himself. He is doing this because he was inspired by Spider-man's example to do something selfless. Just like a comic book reader would be if they had the similar circumstances. He is that damn good as a character.

Now I dare you to read the first 13 issues of Ultimate Comics: All-New Spider-man and not be in love with the character.

[Rinzler]

Turbojet is the rest of Ultimate Spider Man so consistently awesome? Because that is hilarious.

Edited August 9, 2012 by Megatronus

[Jacky]

Ultimate kicks ass, I started it from the beginning and i'm loving it so far, might just cherrypick the rest of the arcs that sound awesome, but yes it's indeed awesome fun.

[Speederino]

Turbojet is the rest of Ultimate Spider Man so consistently awesome? Because that is hilarious.

[Sami]

Turbojet is the rest of Ultimate Spider Man so consistently awesome? Because that is hilarious.

In several ways, yeah.

For one, Doc Ock is fucking intimidating:

[NoahTH]

http://thatguywithth...w-200th-episode

Well guys Linkara finally caved in and decided to review the worst Spidey comic ever made.

It's a 2 part spectacular.

This points out EXACTLY why OMD sucked. While I'll still probably get current issues, because they have gotten much better, OMD is more a terribly written story than the Clone Saga. Also, I kind of like the Marvel NOW! costumes. Deal with it.

[Rinzler]

So I started reading Ultimate Spider Man and it's pretty awesome.

[Emperor Robrainiac]

http://thatguywithth...w-200th-episode

Well guys Linkara finally caved in and decided to review the worst Spidey comic ever made.

It's a 2 part spectacular.

I watched it, loved it... A perfect look at why this comic is such an abomination.

Though I'm with Linkara when I say that I felt more offended by the whole "Escapist fantasy fans/gamers/comic book readers are life hating losers" than the stupidity of Spiderman making a deal with the devil. Seriously I'm reading a comic about a man who has the powers of a spider... don't you dare insult the people you are aiming for, assholes.

I hate it when the author insults their readers, I don't care what the subject is.

Edited August 10, 2012 by Lyra Heartstrings

[Soniman]

I hope the Main Spider Man comic will become good again one day.