Spoiler Thread (Spoiler Tags Please)

[Riverstone]

The guy above me is right.

And remember, Sonic 4 is made for the general public (who may have not played a sonic side scroller for over 15 years).

It was not made for the fans.

Keep that in mind.

(one thing though, i am not sure why the final boss is copied, considering that most casual gamers never actually got up to the final boss in sonic 2...)

[Aquaslash]

Repeating: the next two episodes might not even be in development.

Having personally worked in developing this kind of game, I would like to call you out (as usual XD) on this one point.

They have been working on this game for little over a year at the least. Unlike myself and other hackers, who do this stuff in our spare time, these dudes have been punching in the old 9-5 and worse working on this game.

If they only have 4 zones ready in that short period of time, and aren't working on Episodes 2 and 3 at all, that is extremely piss poor development.

In fact, I know level artists that can practically shit out entire zones worth of art overnight; and he does the same process here of putting bits and pieces of existing levels together.

Anywho, the point is, they ARE working on eps 2 and 3, in fact, they've even said so. It'd be REALLY bad on their part to not be doing so at this point.

[Dark Qiviut]

@ Aquaslash: I just read your comment, and I must say that you make a great point here. What you wrote here makes a lot of sense gameplay-wise.

In fact, I know level artists that can practically shit out entire zones worth of art overnight; and he does the same process here of putting bits and pieces of existing levels together.

I might not be as big a fan of Sonic Retro as you know, but I'll admit that your development teams have a ton of talent, and I've seen your games. I definitely buy that your level designers can create them in their sleep, so to speak.

(Of course, when you have to do it professionally, level designing is one key step. Another is to have the client and directors approving them.

Anywho, the point is, they ARE working on eps 2 and 3, in fact, they've even said so. It'd be REALLY bad on their part to not be doing so at this point.

Great point, both here and this:

If they only have 4 zones ready in that short period of time, and aren't working on Episodes 2 and 3 at all, that is extremely piss poor development.

I understand fully here, and thinking about it, my comment that you quoted doesn't seem to make so much sense, either. So, therefore, I retract this comment and apologize for not fact-checking on this little "tidbit" (saying the quoted word loosely) as well as I thought.

[Detective Shadzter]

Didn't really know where to post this but here goes, Xbox360Achievements.org have revealed the games gamerpic thingy -

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/search.php

[Sparks]

Didn't really know where to post this but here goes, Xbox360Achievements.org have revealed the games gamerpic thingy -

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/search.php

Looks nice!

Thanks for posting.

Oh and, I don't think this means much, but when you search Sonic The Hedgehog 4 on that site, it lists both Episode 1 and Episode 2 in the search results.

[Aquaslash]

*words*

Yeah, it's cool. I was pretty much agreeing with you up to that point too! XD You had a solid post and good point, just wanted to single out that one off bit

[Detective Shadzter]

After revealing the games recent games played pic I posted further up, Xbox360Achievements.org now have the Achievements pics. Some of them are in colour while others aren't -

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/sonic-the-hedgehog-4-episode-1/achievements/

EDIT:

PS3 Trophies are up now too -

http://www.ps3trophies.org/game/sonic-the-hedgehog-4-episode-1/trophies/

[speedfreak]

It figures Super Sonic isn't in color. =/

Also I still don't get how we are supposed to clear all acts as Super Sonic with acts like the mine cart and the pinball level.

Edited April 13, 2010 by speedfreak

[Kamicciolo]

Since it says to Clear the act as Super Sonic, I'd assume there'd be a home-stretch sort of area where your back to the normal controls, just before the Goal Post.

[MrROBOTO1988]

It figures Super Sonic isn't in color. =/

Also I still don't get how we are supposed to clear all acts as Super Sonic with acts like the mine cart and the pinball level.

Well, as far as the pinball level (casino street act 2), there's one of those slot machines where you can get rings, so it shouldn't be much of an issue to get 50 of them and transform.

For the mine cart level, again, you can get rings, although whether you can transform into super sonic while in the mine cart remains to be seen. However, if that is not a possibility, i'm sure the programmers have taken that into account, and you will still be able to get your achievement by doing all of the other levels.

[Blue Blood]

No such thing exists in Lost Labyrinth 2, and we can't tell if the same also applies to Casino Street 2. In either case, it should be obvious that if you can't transform then that act won't be counted.

[choir123_6]

Anyone want to give me those vids to download? I want the game ruined for me D:

[Flyboy Fox]

Anyone want to give me those vids to download? I want the game ruined for me D:

Please don't ask for leaked assets on the forums. If you wish to seek them out yourself, feel free, but we are not allowing posted leaked content or links to said content here on =SSMB=. Thanks.

[Aquaslash]

I'm guessing you can transform in the mine cart. Jumping isn't required this time.

[Blue Blood]

I'm guessing you can transform in the mine cart. Jumping isn't required this time.

Here's hoping that the minecart transforms too. You know that would be awesome.

[Aquaslash]

Search around folks. There's a HQ shot Sonic 4 going around that has Super Sonic. I just found it, and it is glorious ;_;

EDIT: I don't think I'm crossing any lines by mentioning it's out there. Especially since the place it's from is making no effort to hide it. Still, I'll retract if needed.

Also, in before Tristan.

Edited April 19, 2010 by Aquaslash

[StratusAsterion]

Search around folks. There's a HQ shot Sonic 4 going around that has Super Sonic. I just found it, and it is glorious ;_;

EDIT: I don't think I'm crossing any lines by mentioning it's out there. Especially since the place it's from is making no effort to hide it. Still, I'll retract if needed.

Also, in before Tristan.

EDIT: nevermind

anywho really looking forward to this game, I hope to see some more official releases from Sega soon, some more badnicks and info on the stages would be nice.

Edited April 19, 2010 by AmitieAkiera

[Blue Blood]

I saw it earlier- it does a better job of showing the level in HD (Casino Street) than Super Sonic, because he is facing forwards and sort of upwards.

[Aquaslash]

Speaking of shots, since the contrast between Sonic and the levels is present, this is gonna look strange on a HD TV.

Edited April 19, 2010 by Aquaslash

[Blue Blood]

Apparently, that picture is now accompanied by a HQ video feature more Super Sonic play. I don't know if it's real, however...

And would you look at that? We almost went 24 hours without a post in the ENTIRE Sonic 4 sub-section. Hype = dead.

[speedfreak]

Apparently, that picture is now accompanied by a HQ video feature more Super Sonic play. I don't know if it's real, however...

And would you look at that? We almost went 24 hours without a post in the ENTIRE Sonic 4 sub-section. Hype = dead.

Yeah, it's too bad. We've seen just about everything there is to see for episode 1 so speculation is pointless. We still have a few months before we can even play the thing so it's not like we could discuss our personal experience with the game either. I'd imagine it's going to be pretty dead in here until release or maybe even until Sega starts teasing episode 2.

[Blue Blood]

Yeah, what a shame. The game is basically out, but nobody's gotten around to buying it yet.

On the plus side, the new footage is FUCKING WONDERFUL. You see the level clearly, hear the music in context with all the SFX (and it's not muffled), he player doesn't spam the jump dash and finally the spin-dash is used properly. The gameplay looks a LOT slower than before also.

[Agent York]

Wow... Over 5 Hours of HD Sonic 4 footage... Well some nice stuff seen, can't wait to play the game. The game looks a lot better in the small bits I looked at, Super Sonic can be in the mine cart stage, score and time attack modes look lovely, physics look refined. Looks great. Sonic looks a good speed in these videos.

Edited April 20, 2010 by Dusk the Wicked Keeper

[Aquaslash]

I'm guessing you can transform in the mine cart. Jumping isn't required this time.

Called it

However, the level STILL kicked his ass XD

[Solly]

So yeah, I'm late to the party again. Footage is leaked, I can't find it- which is a shame because people are making it seem like something I'd actually want to watch.

:/