Sonic Lost World: *Japan Site Update* TGS2013 Trailer, New artwork and more!

[Soniman]

I just hope they don't mess it up because I actually like the wisps and believe they can add ton of genuine variety to the gameplay, but if they're cumbersome to use that can be a problem.

[Doctor MK]

It's an issue that they could definitely fix (in the case of the laser wisp at least), so I'm just hoping it's much more intuitive in the finished product. Obviously the stick and buttons combo will always be the more preferable method, but it'd be nice to know that the control scheme they're shoving down our throats is at least resembling competent.

[Narukami07]

I just wish we had more info from other user here on how the other Wisps besides Astroid & Lazer fared with the gamepad controls. :/

[Zazz]

I just wish we had more info from other user here on how the other Wisps besides Astroid & Lazer fared with the gamepad controls. :/

I just wish people would stop crying over the controls & focus on how fun the game is period =/

[Sky]

I'd like to chime in regards to the Laser Wisp (I played it at Sonic Boom). You can simply position Sonic in the direction that you want to aim the Laser Wisp, and activate it and press the fire button (the A button) without needing to aim the Laser Wisp with anything during the Laser Wisp aiming part of the power-up.

 

Basically, all I did was make Sonic look at where I wanted to fire, then activate the Laser Wisp, press fire, the end. No aiming necessary (and if I needed to aim at that point in the case that I was off with Sonic's position, it's easy with the control stick regardless). I didn't find it a hassle at all with the control stick and the fire button.

[Zazz]

30 Days Left till SLW comes out, hype level increasing!

[Narukami07]

30 Days Left till SLW comes out, hype level increasing!

 

"My sword hand twitches....."

[Brad]

I just wish people would stop crying over the controls & focus on how fun the game is period =/

What even is this statement? If you have shitty controls in your game, any fun you try to have is going to be significantly damped as a result. Controls are the very essence of a player's contribution. It's completely fair to complain.

Edited September 22, 2013 by Symbotic

[Lady Soniko]

What even is this statement? If you have shitty controls in your game, any fun you try to have is going to be significantly damped as a result. Controls are the very essence of a player's contribution. It's completely fair to complain.

 

Wisp activation is hardly considered "shitty controls" when it's mostly optional, Sonic's controls and parkour is pretty solid regardless, and as many have already proven there are ways around the touch controls/ they are fine, it's mixed reception depending on the people who have played it, it's pretty 50/50 at this point.

[Brad]

Wisp activation is hardly considered "shitty controls" when it's mostly optional, Sonic's controls and parkour is pretty solid regardless, and as many have already proven there are ways around the touch controls/ they are fine, it's mixed reception depending on the people who have played it, it's pretty 50/50 at this point.

I never said the Wisps were considered shitty controls, I'm yet to play the game and gain an opinion on such. I'm responding to the idea that somehow controls don't contribute to an overall "fun factor" and we should simply elect to ignore them, or "stop crying" about them as stated. Like you say it's very 50/50 at this point with people loving or hating the new control scheme on Sonic itself from previews of the game, so that's something that will have to wait till launch day. 

Edited September 23, 2013 by Symbotic

[Lady Soniko]

That and most demo's are incomplete BETA stages, and are then thoroughly polished upon reception from the players, that's kind of the whole point of a demo, we shouldn't ignore inherent problems, but I'm simply guessing that Zazz is sick of the reception the Wisp use functions are getting despite no one really having a complete grasp of using them in the first place, there are people who are claiming they are fine, and others who are claiming they are shit and broken, so we can't really make a judgement on something we aren't entirely sure about.

 

Are we sure the demo pod's at SoS weren't simply out of calibration, or had a smudged screen which was causing the touchpad to throw the laser reticule all over the place despite how steady the player was trying to aim? I've had the same problem with Murfy's levels in Rayman Legends.

[Blue Wisp]

I guess it was calibrated, but bear in mind that calibration isn't universal. That COULD explain most of the complaints. Not all of us have the same fingers so yeah.

[VGamer]

Aaron Webber and I think someone else at Sega has said that the game is pretty much complete, and now they're just making small touch ups. Keep in mind that it was said during E3 I think, so I doubt these stages haven't been worked on.

I think the main reason that people are worried about the gamepad touch/gyroscope controls (myself included) is mainly because a lot of people have reported that they just don't work. I've also seen way too many people over the past few cons/events that weren't able to use the laser wisp at all in game footage in Windy Hill. It just seems like it'll be an issue at this point.

[Zazz]

Im just tired of people saying how awkward & bad the wisp controls are, moving your gamepad around to control most of not some of the wisps isnt that bad =P

Aaron Webber and I think someone else at Sega has said that the game is pretty much complete, and now they're just making small touch ups. Keep in mind that it was said during E3 I think, so I doubt these stages haven't been worked on.

I think the main reason that people are worried about the gamepad touch/gyroscope controls (myself included) is mainly because a lot of people have reported that they just don't work. I've also seen way too many people over the past few cons/events that weren't able to use the laser wisp at all in game footage in Windy Hill. It just seems like it'll be an issue at this point.

I think Aaron said that around when the Frozen Factory Casino zone was revealed, & im kinda scared that the Gyroscope for Grey Quake is gonna be all weird & not control properly D=.

[Cyrus]

Motion controls don't always work, y'see.

[Lady Soniko]

I'm sure it's a minor fault or the player not doing the correct thing, but I won't know till I get it.

 

As much as I hate gyro controls =/.

[StrgAltEntf]

30 Days Left till SLW comes out, hype level increasing!

26 Days over here! ^^

I'm so excited for this game! And you know what? I'm happy to be excited about a Sonic game at my age. lol

[Zazz]

26 Days over here! ^^

I'm so excited for this game! And you know what? I'm happy to be excited about a Sonic game at my age. lol

Damn I forgot some countries get the game on the 18th =/

Either way people are gonna leak things all over the place a couple days before the game comes out over here in the U.S so, meh..

Edited September 23, 2013 by Zazz

[Octarine]

I've been a little concerned about the Wisps since Aaron somehow blasted himself backwards using the Laser in Windy Hill in that first gameplay video (and then bravely pretended nothing was wrong). The lady who they got to play the same stage in the TGS demonstration the other day seemed like she had it working fine, though, so who even knows?

[Radrappy]

I see what you're doing here. You're trying to pick another fight with me that you're not going to win.

 

The wisp functionality with the gamepad is completely broken. This has been wildly reported by many people. In the demo they show all wisps are controlled by this method.

 

It's not going to be fun. That has been commented on by virtually every single person who has played the game. Even Dr Mk's glowing preview of the game commented on how awful it was.

 

Every demo, every interview, the rep or in this case Iizuka, has tried to convince people that you should use the touchpad for the wisp activation on every wisp and control it by that. Given how utterly horrendous the laser wisp was, my expectations for the rest of them are low.

 

Whats your problem again?

 

 

 

 

Why do you constantly keep ignoring this every single time you try to pick a fight with me....

 

I have played the game.... it is not as good as a lot of people seem to think it is.

 

I'm not sure what your obsession with my comments are with regards to lost world? Is it because I have a TSS staff tag on my username? Or is it just because I'm speaking out against this game for reasons other than art direction?

 

Whatever the case might be, pay attention to this line, because I'm really sick of you and several other people on here and TSS saying I should be nothing but positive about ALL sonic games.

 

You want me to do nothing but praise for this game. You pay me or get Sega to employ me as part of their PR or community team.

 

Do you get that? Do you understand that? You want me to outrightly lie to people about how good something is or how bad something is in a game you're picking an argument with the wrong person. I am not going to sit here and type lies to people if I think something sucks for whatever reason.

 

Last week I got given a free review copy of Carnivores HD from the developers, they gave me a free game to enjoy and asked me to review it, I am going to do that, in fact I'm just nearing the end of it, you think I'm just going to give it glowing praise because they gave me a free game? Like I did with every game I have reviewed or previewed I will be completely honest with how I felt when I played that game and despite this being a freebie I have pulled no punches at all from it.

 

So you want nothing but praise. You'd better slap my posts on ignore from now on unless I get employed into PR by a game developer. I will not pull any punches or be a mindless praise machine for any company unless I'm employed by them to work in their PR deparment, I don't care if it's a Sonic game, Uncharted, Metal Gear, GTA, whatever the game is, you give me a copy of it or a preview/review code and say 'what do you think' I will gladly tell you what I think of it, if it's good I'll say it's good.

 

 

This has nothing to do with freedom of press, a right to your opinion, or whatever else nonsense you're trying to drum up with an incendiary post like this.  I have no problem with criticism or calling things as they are but your blatant slant in opinion when it comes to this title is un-ignorable.  ESPECIALLY since yes, your position as a staff member lends you a certain amount of clout that others do not enjoy.  What I take issue with is not what you're saying so much as how you choose to say it.

 

Case in point, you wrote a lengthy preview weeks back which involves paragraph upon paragraph of complaining about nearly every part of the game.  The only positive remarks made were snide and obviously token.  Further, you've only ever brought up negative aspects of the game in SLW forum topics, ignoring most any and all positives.  All you had to say about the exciting TGS trailer was that people would hate the motion controls.  And with regards to said gamepad controls, it doesn't matter if every preview thus far has commented on how janky they are, it doesn't mean that they won't be fixed or fun by the time the title actually releases.

 

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but there's a big difference between being honest about a review copy you've received and writing a title off in advance based on a preview build.  And its very clear from everything you've said thus far that you've all but written off SLW.  I'm not asking for anyone to turn a blind eye to the game's faults but to present your criticisms constructively and in a way that contributes to discussion.  

 

I'm not trying to pick a fight, but I have no problem calling you out on what I consider to be borderline trolling.

 

 

 

I have played the game.... it is not as good as a lot of people seem to think it is.

 

 

Can't you understand how ridiculous a statement like this is given that you've only played a handful of unfinished levels at a convention kiosk?  

Edited September 23, 2013 by Radrappy

[Salamander]

I've been a little concerned about the Wisps since Aaron somehow blasted himself backwards using the Laser in Windy Hill in that first gameplay video (and then bravely pretended nothing was wrong).

 

There was another video a little while ago in which he attempted to use the Asteroid Wisp and failed miserably and immediately at what he stated he was going to attempt.

 

This doesn't concern me as much as it could.  If the Gamepad controls for the Wisps are wonky enough that even Sega's own employees can't demonstrate them correctly, I would be astonished if Sonic Team weren't using the last of their development time to try and fix it.  And that's assuming that they were just going on demo feedback and weren't still working on the Wisps anyway because they weren't finished.  I recall reading here that other things had changed between different versions of the game, right?

 

It's also kinda no skin off my nose because I'm getting the 3DS version anyway, but of course we all want both versions to succeed.

[The-Master-Board]

Anybody seen this yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isTUqCZoYZo

 

45 minutes of the TGS Sonic Lost World booth. Pretty much no new footage but they do interview the designer and head sound guy and also show off some of the new SLW products like iPhone5 cases and a Sonic neck tie.

[Indigo Rush]

Yep, we've seen it.

[Celestia]

There was another video a little while ago in which he attempted to use the Asteroid Wisp and failed miserably and immediately at what he stated he was going to attempt.

If you mean when he was unable to get that Red Ring, it wasn't due to the controls or anything, he just didn't absorb enough debris with Asteroid to jump high enough to get it. Not quite the same as the Laser Wisp issue.

 

In any case, I'm not too worried about the Wisps...except Rhythm. That one might just make me cry.

[Woun]

New Screenshots WiiU version from Japanese site:










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