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So it's basically Batman the Brave and the Bold: Arkham City? SIGN ME UP! biggrin.png

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Silver Age? Not interested, but Arkham 3 with a downloadable Adam West skin would be nice.

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For those unsure about what the Silver age was about, let me provide you with some insight.

The dark, gritty, and menacing Batman & Crew

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The Evil, Psychotic Joker!

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Villians you could relate to, some of which had an immense amount of backstory to be told

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And of course, mysterious new allies

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The Silver Age was the best (campy) age.

Keep the POW BAM's when you punch someone, and you got yourself a customer Rocksteady. (And at least keep in Bat-Hombre)

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I'm sure it'll be good like their other Batman games, but I'm still too sad that they aren't making a TMNT game to get really excited.

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Rumor: Rocksteady developing Batman Silver Age game

This better be true. A Silver Age Batman game has potential to be like the greatest thing ever.

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Silver Age Batman? Not sure how Rocksteady are gonna handle this, if they're gonna do it like an actual Silver Age thing, or a more serious title in the same events. But a more lighthearted Batman game is something I wouldn't mind playing.

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Can't say I really care for Silver Age Batman...or Silver Age DC in general, for that matter. But hey, it's a Rocksteady-produced Batman game, they can do whatever the hell they want as far as I'm concerned.

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For those unsure about what the Silver age was about, let me provide you with some insight.

The dark, gritty, and menacing Batman & Crew

wS23ll.jpg

The Evil, Psychotic Joker!

aoZRa.jpg

Villians you could relate to, some of which had an immense amount of backstory to be told

Vaillain-kite-Man.jpgfredhembeck2005118-03_1131436797.jpg

And of course, mysterious new allies

D5yJ6l.jpgyElCv.jpg

The Silver Age was the best (campy) age.

Keep the POW BAM's when you punch someone, and you got yourself a customer Rocksteady. (And at least keep in Bat-Hombre)

Somehow I think they are heading more the route of "The New Frontier" which takes place in the Silver Age but abandoned the light hearted tone of it.

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Welp, that settles it. I'm buying whichever version gets the exclusive Jokermobile DLC.

Silver age Joker is the second best Joker, right after TAS. And I would invest great amounts of legal course paper money into any audiovisual interactive entertainment that were based on either.

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So Retro has been in deep devolopment on a Banjo and Kazooie title even though Nintendo doesn't have Rare? Yep, totally believable.

And no, I would not want this to happen. As much as I loved Banjo Kazooie (hell, I'm one of the few people who really liked Nuts and Bolts) Nintendo is not one I would want to develop or own Banjo and Kazooie.

If they were developing, Nintendo does have charm, but just because Kid Icarus Uprising (which wasn't really made by Nintendo) had wacky writing, doesn't mean Banjo and Kazooie would. The jokes and witty writing in the Banjo Kazooie games, there's no way Nintendo themselves could re-create such charm that the B&K games had. Writing has never been Ninty's strong suit, and in a game that is almost despondent on the writing and characterization, it is desperately needed.

Also you know how much they love to experiment with games, people could be wishing for another 3D Platformer, and Nintendo could for all we know, change it into an RPG.

Now say if they give it to another developer, say Retro. Alright, Retro does the game, it's 3D, has the B&K charm, and overall it's a wonderful and witty game. Okay, so when are we gonna see the next one? Because you all know how much Nintendo loves to run on Valve time with some games. When was the last new Starfox, 7 years ago? Last 2D Metroid? 10 years ago. How about F-Zero? Hell even though Kid Icarus just returned after 25 years, how many years before we even see hints of a sequel? Or the next Luigi game after Dark Moon?

Point is, I just don't want Nintendo to own or develop Banjo and Kazooie, because even if they do come out with an open-world 3D Platformer like the good old days of Banjo Kazooie and Tooie, what will they do next? Throw it in the vault and open it up 10 years later, or start milking the franchise? I only see bad bad things in the future if they own Rare/B&K.

Speaking of which, why waste so much money, buying back a company that is doing horribly. Rare is shit nowadays, all of the good developers/artists have left, and to use so much money for a company on one game that may or may not be good, is just not worth it.

But this is a rumor, and I assume that Nintendo is smart enough to not do this. And why now? Why not 10 years ago after they first sold them, or after Nuts and Bolts came out? Just seems so bad and fake to me.

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So let the franchise rot where it is now? This could only be an improvement over the current situation, or do you expect the current talent at Rare to uphold the franchise well after Nuts and Bolts?

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Can't really buy into that rumour, but honestly I don't see Microsoft doing anything worthwhile with Banjo ever again (and many would argue about how worthwhile N&B was). Surely they'd not sell him back to Nintendo though.

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I thought the problems with Rare had more to do with the current staff then it did being owned by Microsoft.

Ninja'd by Cheese.

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So let the franchise rot where it is now? This could only be an improvement over the current situation, or do you expect the current talent at Rare to uphold the franchise well after Nuts and Bolts?

Judging by how I said Rare is shit in my post, no, I don't expect Rare to bounce back up, at all really.

I'm saying Nintendo is just a bad choice to own an IP such as this. I'd rather have many other developers/pubishers own Banjo Kazooie, but not Nintendo.

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I thought the problems with Rare had more to do with the current staff then it did being owned by Microsoft.

To be precise, Rare's current staff situation is a direct consequence of being owned by Microsoft.

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To be precise, Rare's current staff situation is a direct consequence of being owned by Microsoft.

I'm pretty sure Rare's troubles started back during the development of Dinosaur Planet around the time it got turned into a Gamecube game and a Star Fox game. Though considering Rare was bought out by MS during said development...

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Hey, I'm personally all for for the sale of Rare back to Nintendo. I'd personally like to finally recieve my Virtual Console port of GoldenEye 007 or Diddy Kong Racing, thank you very much. I also would be interested in seeing one of Nintendo's other developers like Retro Studios having a go with one of Rare's IPs (honestly, Microsoft doesn't even want to bother with Rare IPs they developed for their own consoles like Viva Pinata and Kameo, so I don't think it would be a big loss if they were sold to Nintendo as well). Heck, I'd even like to see exactly the current team of Rare can do that ISN'T related to Wii Sports knockoffs. And who knows: -pipe dream theory- maybe the Stamper Bros. or other members of the old team might return to the company.

Hey, at least in the long run Nintendo would likely give more shits about the company's IPs and the (possible) untapped potential of the current team than Microsoft has done since 2008.

But as the post says, it's a rumor-so all of the above is likely just part of the foundations of a huge pipe dream. I'll just assume the most realistic idea that the rumor is total bullshit in the end. -sigh- I bet the "anonymous tipster" is laughing his ass off right now.

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Rumor: Final Fantasy Versus XIII is cancelled.

It's been six years since Square Enix first showed Final Fantasy Versus XIII's debut trailer. Six long years. When that trailer premiered, George W. Bush was president, Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden were alive, and the global financial crisis had not yet hit. 2006 was a different world, a long, long time ago.

Now Kotaku has learned that Final Fantasy Versus XIII is no more.

Kotaku has heard from several sources that the game, as originally intended, is done for.

One source tells Kotaku that Final Fantasy Versus XIII was officially cancelled within the last few weeks. The decision impacted morale at Square Enix and staff were reportedly saddened by the move.

Square Enix, this source added, has also decided to let Final Fantasy Versus XIII die quietly on the vine and fade away, instead of officially announcing its cancellation. This would likely be due to the fact a public acknowledgement of a Versus' cancellation could impact things like Square Enix's stock prices.

Final Fantasy Versus XIII has been M.I.A. for the past few months, save for the occasional, brief mention. Earlier this spring, Final Fantasy Versus XIII designer Tetsuya Nomura spoke with Japanese game mag Famitsu about the title, which has only ever been seen in trailer and screenshot form.

"We're almost done with preparing the latest info for the game," Nomura told Famitsu. "Because of a totally unrelated reason, there are circumstances in which that info cannot be released."

That was March.

Then in May, Nomura once again commented on the game, saying to Game Informer, "We would like to ask for your patience on an official announcement for this title. It always takes time when tackling the challenge of doing something completely new, but we are doing our best to bring information to the fans as quickly as we can. Your patience is greatly appreciated."

Then E3 came and went with no sign of Versus, which wasn't that strange if you remember the game was not at last year's Tokyo Game Show either.

Whatever happened to the game over those six years—whether it underwent radical changes or simply couldn't come together—it seems Square Enix has finally decided to cut its losses.

Another source tells Kotaku that, a few months back, Final Fantasy Versus XIII's development and resources had actually been folded into another game, which is to be the next numeric Final Fantasy title, Final Fantasy XV. Whether this meant actual game assets and code or simply the movement of staff was unclear. This information was independently corroborated by yet another source, though it's important to note both had learned of the "folding" prior to the more recent news of its outright cancellation.

The Final Fantasy XIII branded types have not been set in stone: another spinoff title Final Fantasy Agito XIII had its name changed to Final Fantasy Type-0. So what was originally planned as an entire mini-franchise by Square, with multiple titles spanning various platforms, looks now to be focused on the adventures of Lightning.

Whether it's been cancelled entirely or had resources absorbed into a newer, larger project, the game we once knew as Final Fantasy Versus XIII would seem to be no more. Even if Final Fantasy Versus XIII has been cancelled, I'm inclined to believe that whatever Versus was, or whatever had been created for the game, will turn up in some form in Final Fantasy XV. Surely, Square Enix would not cancel a game and completely dump all the work it's done? Right?

When Kotaku contacted Square Enix about whether or not Final Fantasy Versus XIII was still in development, the game maker released the following statement: "We have no information on the status of Final Fantasy Versus XIII, but will be sure to update you as it becomes available." Keep in mind, I wasn't asking for an update per se, I simply asked if Square Enix was still making a game it had already announced six years ago. Square Enix did not reply to Kotaku's requests for clarification regarding whether Versus was still in development or not.

Square Enix has a Final Fantasy event coming up in Tokyo in late August and September. One of the stage events is centered around the Final Fantasy XIII Project and the Lightning saga (so a Final Fantasy XIII-3 reveal?). None of the announced stage events center around Final Fantasy Versus XIII, something that Japanese gamers were quick to point out on game sites and blogs.

So, is Final Fantasy Versus XIII finally and officially dead? Without confirmation from Square Enix, we can't say for sure. While these reports certainly indicate the long-awaited game has been cancelled, Square's reluctance to acknowledge them means those desperately wanting to see more of the project still have a glimmer of hope to hold onto.

But if the game fails to make an appearance at either the upcoming Final Fantasy celebrations or the 2012 Tokyo Game Show? Then yeah, given what we've heard (particularly of Square's reported desire to kill the game quietly), you'd be a lot safer assuming Versus XIII is kaput and start looking forward to the next big FF game.

Totally unexpected right?

If they were developing, Nintendo does have charm, but just because Kid Icarus Uprising (which wasn't really made by Nintendo) had wacky writing, doesn't mean Banjo and Kazooie would. The jokes and witty writing in the Banjo Kazooie games, there's no way Nintendo themselves could re-create such charm that the B&K games had. Writing has never been Ninty's strong suit, and in a game that is almost despondent on the writing and characterization, it is desperately needed.

Yeah, because

right?
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I did not say I trust Modern Rare. Usually when people say the Banjo & Kazooie games they're mostly referring to the N64 titles, ignoring the other two (or three).

As for the FF-13 Versus rumor, I wouldn't be surprised if it was cancelled, but I'm gonna hold my breath since it's from Kotaku. But if it's true, then that is a horrible, atrocious way of treating your fans Square Enix.

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Not that it'd be out of character to Square to cancel the only game they have that looks remotely interesting to make, say, more FFXIII spinoffs/sequels, but contrary to what it may seem Versus is quite far in development internally. TGS happens in two months, we'll see.

If they canned it there's a very high chance Nomura and his team would get the fuck out, especially since the slow development is greatly due to being constantly pulled from Versus to help incompetent teams finish other projects.

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