General Nintendo sales/business discussion topic (previously: The Wii U Thread)

[Conando]

I'm not sure if it's more dumb than thinking that the thing would work without one. It's crazy, though.

[Komodin]

If I may be allowed to avoid the inevitable dumb argument that's bound to happen in due time...

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbqTidTNODs

 

THAT ZELDA SPECIAL EDITION WII U. I WANT IT.

 

Eh, this looks alright, but I was expecting it to be a bit more... flashy, I guess? I guess that doctored image from a few days back got me expectations a bit high and wanting something more special.

Edited August 24, 2013 by Komodin

[Conando]

It reminds me of the Zelda 3DS, which I didn't see as much of a special design either. Still, it's a nicer bundle than the standard Deluxe in my opinion; and it's the same price.

[Solkia]

I'm not sure if it's more dumb than thinking that the thing would work without one. It's crazy, though.

 

I remember hearing in this thread numerous times that all the processing is streamed from the console itself and not the controller.

[Conando]

It might NOT have a processor, I'm just guessing at what's in there. It does have hardware in it, though I do remember hearing about the system itself handling the processing even for the controller. It's probably things like bluetooth and display hardware, then.

[The Kid]

Considering wireless controllers can go from $40-60  I'm not surpised this costs $150 to replace. I'm not saying its justified, but I'm not suprised in the slightest.

[Autosaver]

I honestly prefer the subtle looking. I'm not sure why people would rather have something that is distracting and flashy. Having flashy little symbols around the Wii U Gamepad is perfect just like how it was with the 3DS Zelda.

[RK64]

I think the "new" Wii U design looks nice; have the slick black console as before with a Zelda-fied GamePad (which looks really nice). The bundle itself is quite attractive too; sure its a bit pricey, but getting the next Nintendo system bundled with a full-on Zelda that uses the systems features (like how Twilight Princess on Wii had great Wiimote implementation with the IR and motion controlled combat) and all the perks the system has (10% discount on digital games is nice and having full-on BC with all your Wii stuff is really nice ). Solid deal I think.

[PSI Wind]

Do we even know the price?

[Marcello]

I like the bundle design. It's simple, but sometimes that's better.

Edited August 24, 2013 by MarcelloF

[Red Cap]

Nintendo should have thought of that before building a console around a $150+ controller nobody asked for.

Just because no one asked for it doesn't mean it's not a cool idea. It feels real good to be able to play games like New Super Mario Bros U in any position I want.

[Sami]

Just because no one asked for it doesn't mean it's not a cool idea. It feels real good to be able to play games like New Super Mario Bros U in any position I want.

 

It's neat, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a huge risk that exploded in their faces.

 

Nintendo doesn't give a fuck what anyone thinks; they do what they want. Sometimes it works, sometimes it bites them in the ass.

[RisingForever]

Just because no one asked for it doesn't mean it's not a cool idea. It feels real good to be able to play games like New Super Mario Bros U in any position I want.

Sure its cool, but is it really worth $150 dollars. This isn't like the Wii where the motion controls was a relatively cheap innovation, this tablet is probably more than a third of the cost of the system. It is actually very similar to Microsoft including the Kinect 2 with the Xbox One with it apparently costing as much as the console itself.

[RK64]

The ironic thing about the gamepad; next generation tittles are using its features, but with tablets (or in Sony's case, cross-controller support) instead of controller with a touch screen, so Nintendo was on to something with the GamePad, as games this past E3 like Plants vs Zombies Garden Warfare, Battlefield 4, The Crew, Watch Dogs, The Division and the upcoming Directors Edition of Deus Ex: Human Revolution (yes it was a Wii U exclusive at one point, but now its coming to 360 and PS3 as well).

[Blue Blood]

Nintendo doesn't give a fuck what anyone thinks; they do what they want. Sometimes it works, sometimes it bites them in the ass.

 

This is both the reason that I love and loathe Nintendo.

[Red Cap]

Sure its cool, but is it really worth $150 dollars.

At the risk of sounding stupid, I'd say that it is. Mainly for the reason I gave before.

[Mando-Whirl-Wind]

Sure its cool, but is it really worth $150 dollars. This isn't like the Wii where the motion controls was a relatively cheap innovation, this tablet is probably more than a third of the cost of the system. It is actually very similar to Microsoft including the Kinect 2 with the Xbox One with it apparently costing as much as the console itself.

I would say there is a bit of a difference, as one is simply an expansion and a further development of the basic controller, whereas Kinect is an optional feature that is extreme quirky, has a lot of features people dont want, and isnt nessecary to gameplay

And the fact that the wii-u gamepad still works like a traditional controller for the most part

Edited August 24, 2013 by Mandobardanjusik

[The_Disney_Dork]

If they make a special edition Lost World Wii U (which I doubt they will) I'll be pretty pissed off.

[Sami]

At the risk of sounding stupid, I'd say that it is. Mainly for the reason I gave before.

 

Unfortunately for Nintendo, not many people seem to agree.

[LunarEdge]

The ironic thing about the gamepad; next generation tittles are using its features, but with tablets (or in Sony's case, cross-controller support) instead of controller with a touch screen, so Nintendo was on to something with the GamePad, as games this past E3 like Plants vs Zombies Garden Warfare, Battlefield 4, The Crew, Watch Dogs, The Division and the upcoming Directors Edition of Deus Ex: Human Revolution (yes it was a Wii U exclusive at one point, but now its coming to 360 and PS3 as well).

and Sony had something originally with the limited Remote play features of the Ps3 and PSP. Given, it kinda sucked (even though I liked playing my ps1 titles in the bathroom when I was taking care of paperwork) it pretty much paved the way for "Can't access tv? Play through this device with a screen," craze

[PSI Wind]

If they make a special edition Lost World Wii U (which I doubt they will) I'll be pretty pissed off.

If they made it in the UK though, it sure would sell a lot me thinks.

[Willsy]

If they make a Lost World Wii U (a blue console and gamepad), I will not be happy. I already own a Wii U. However if I could buy the case separately....

[Autosaver]

One feature I love about the tablet controller is asymettrical multiplayer and off-play TV.

 

If the controller didn't exist, we wouldn't have these two features. Would you sacrifice the ability to have a new world of gameplay and play-in-your-bed games for a cheaper controller?

Let alone the fact that it would completely devalue the product as doing nothing but being an HD Wii. Do you REALLY want Wii Remote controls in every game? Do you just want Xbox 360 ports? I want fresh new experiences, something that has never been done before. I want Nintendo to be Nintendo - they continue to innovate (please PLEASE do not try to nitpick this word) and provide fresh experiences.

 

Splitscreen without seeing each other's screen.

 

Luigi's Mansion where one player is the ghost and everyone else is a Mario character.

 

Touch screen gameplay and drawing. Use your tablet as a drawing tablet! Art Academy Wii U.

Credit:

 

Game & Wario where one player moves around in a busy area (ie: NYC) while the gamepad player has to use clues to find out which one is him.

 

Tabletop minigames

 

ZombiU's asymmetrical versus mode - One player plays a FPS and the other sets Zombis.

 

AND MORE

 

Pikmin 3 where the Gamepad can be used to send different squads to different areas.

Convenient maps and inventory screens that no longer need me to pause and or allow a bigger map.

HUDs that no longer take up the screen and instead appear on the Gamepad.

Scribblenauts - Have the ability to draw and have keyboard input. Only available on PC and Wii U.

Chess where each player has their own playing field.

Uno where you could pass the pad to each player to not reveal your cards.

Five Player native support (Most consoles don't go past 4 - Most likely due to limited screen space).

 

 

Sacrifice ALL of this (and so many more potential examples) so the console can be slightly cheaper? Xbox 360 with Motion Controls over Wii U and new tablet controller experiences? Hmm

Edit: Lol I posted twice, cleaned it up.

Edited August 24, 2013 by Autosaver

[The Kid]

Weren't handheld-console functionality options first introduced with the Gamecube though?

[Autosaver]

Actually, the Gameboy (Color?) and N64 did that first.

...But where do you see anything about that in my post? I didn't use that as an example. The Wii U is not a handheld.