Sonic Lost World in PAX Prime 2013

[Badnik Mechanic]

We just can't get enough of the Boost Trilogy! <3

 

He never mentioned the boost trilogy. He never even mentioned what Sonic games he played or what he was comparing it too.

 

When the boost was first introduced, I can't remember this ever being brought up as a potential problem. One instance which I've commented on, people at Retro have also commented on it, and a few people have who have played it have also mentioned. Sonic moves too slow for one thing. Even when running it doesn't feel like Sonic is the fastest thing alive anymore.

 

You can't just brush these criticisms of it 'not feeling like a past game' aside, because it's important when it comes to in service/recognition to the brand. People buy the game with a minset of 'it's gonna be like this' won't return for the next installment if you change their expectations.

[Shade Vortex]

Yep, I have a pretty cool Sonic Lost World Lanyard. I also have 2 Nintendo ones, two Behemoth ones (one Blue, one White/Silver) and a Sonic CD one from a previous year of PAX (I am not getting rid of that one).

 

And the 3DS doesn't hurt my eyes personally, I just felt the level design was better in the WIi U version so far. Like in the Desert Ruins level, they have this part where you platform up a wall slowly and dodge those damn purple worm things, which can be done quicker with Indigo Asteroid, but once you run out, then it just becomes a sequence of using parkour and jumping over and over again. I just felt there were too many platforms/the wall was too high. Not that I mind using parkour more, but if it's to do the same thing over and over again, it seems tedious, especially when it's preventing me from progressing through a stage.

[Tani Coyote]

Personally I'm curious if SEGA America has more than one Sonic suit or not. If not, I'm assuming a hilarious scene of Sonic leaving Expo 2013 on Wednesday, the suit being given to a SEGA employee, and then they had to fly into Seattle to deliver it for PAX.

Yep, I have a pretty cool Sonic Lost World Lanyard.

Sonic swag at this event?

Screw Expo, I'm going to PAX next year! I need an excuse to see Seattle anywho.

 

And the 3DS doesn't hurt my eyes personally, I just felt the level design was better in the WIi U version so far.

I can never get the 3DS to position in just the right way characters don't have the 3D aura around them. In all honesty I'd have much preferred a version that had 3D glasses to do the effect for you.

Either way it's good to hear the Wii U version is shaping up to sound like the better one, so I don't regret my Wii U purchase, definitely.

[Shade Vortex]

You could always get a 2DS/have the 3D slider set to off if you don't like the 3D of the 3DS. I do hear the 3D is better on the XL, though. I couldn't judge well since, at the angle the 3DS systems were tethered, the 3D didn't seem to look right. The viewing angle for the 3D is kind of annoying, I will admit.

 

Also, for me, speed wise, this game felt like SA2 to me, and since I've been playing that lately, it's not so jarring an adjustment to get used to for me. I personally felt that Generations/Unleashed/to a lesser extent Colors were another extreme. I consider 06 (at least playing as Silver, Amy, and personally Shadow and Sonic most of the time) and Labyrinth (for obvious reasons) to be too slow for me, and the Boost trilogy to be a bit too fast, really. I mean, I got used to the speed for the most part, but I think they're trying to go for pick-up-and-play (which Colors did better, since you couldn't boost all the time, as it was handled better IMO).

 

Although I will say that the combination of all the changes/additions makes it kind of a contradiction. The speed tiers, parkour, the new homing kick/stun kick, it's all stuff you basically already have to know how to use to use right. They do have a "Controls" thing on display, but I doubt everyone's going to read that. In terms of mechanics, this is more complicated to get used to, clearly. But gameplay-wise it does feel a lot more controllable at both slow and fast speeds. Though many would complain that there's not a big enough difference between the three speeds (Walking, Running/Parkour and Spindash/Peel-Out), as a compromise.

Edited August 31, 2013 by Shade Vortex

[TCB]

The Wii U version is the better version de facto; that's the version Sonic Team is putting more into as far as that being the first, new main series title after Generations.

 

With that said, I'm not going to count its 3DS counterpart out. On its own, it's it looks like Dimps is putting more effort into a handheld Sonic title than they haven't in a while. Yeah, there's some nooks and crannies found in that version that I too am not too peachy on (that specific Desert Ruins level Shade mentioned). Compared to its big brethren of course it's the inferior version. Other than that, I'm liking what the 3DS version is showing us.

[Autosaver]

He never even mentioned what Sonic games he played or what he was comparing it too.

 

...He said he had hopes after Sonic Generations though.

[Badnik Mechanic]

Another Lost World Preview.

 

Another person saying it's a hard game to get into and theres problems with the controls. Only this time it's on the 3DS version.

 

http://thegamefanatics.com/2013/08/31/pax-prime-quick-look-sonic-lost-world/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[Scar]

If you don't already know about the run button, it looks like it will cause you problems. Primarily because Sonic looks frustratingly slow when running, and because the parkour won't work unless you're running.

 

Also, the magnetic camera does look disorientating.

[Willsy]

Well the 3DS version's problems don't surprise me. The handheld version is always the inferior version in some way.

Edited August 31, 2013 by Wil348

[Tani Coyote]

Well the 3DS version's problems don't surprise me. The handheld version is always the inferior version in some way.

And yet we're told to buy both so as to get some sort of secret bonus...

I'm really looking forward to launch date specifically to see exactly what the bonus is.

Never mind it'll leak over the internet anyway so people will be able to decide in retrospect if they want both versions.

[Radrappy]

Another Lost World Preview.

 

Another person saying it's a hard game to get into and theres problems with the controls. Only this time it's on the 3DS version.

 

http://thegamefanatics.com/2013/08/31/pax-prime-quick-look-sonic-lost-world/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

 

 

"This concept is amazing, mind you, but sadly I found myself running into walls and being more frustrated. I want to make Sonic run. I didn’t want to worry about jumping or running fast only to run face first into a wall."

 

Guess she doesn't want to have to worry about jumping or obstacles.  

 

Also, give it a rest Hogfather.  You hate it, we get it.  

Edited August 31, 2013 by Radrappy

[Blitz 'n Burst]

I keep checking YouTube in the hopes of somebody posting some footage ):

Edited August 31, 2013 by Blitz 'n Burst

[TrueBlue]

"This concept is amazing, mind you, but sadly I found myself running into walls and being more frustrated. I want to make Sonic run. I didn’t want to worry about jumping or running fast only to run face first into a wall."

 

Guess she doesn't want to have to worry about jumping or obstacles.  

 

Also, give it a rest Hogfather.  You hate it, we get it.  

 

There's no need for this is there? Get a grip.

[Diogenes]

I want to make Sonic run. I didn’t want to worry about jumping or running fast only to run face first into a wall.

What the hell does this even mean, seriously.

[Scar]

Also, give it a rest Hogfather.  You hate it, we get it.

Bullshit attitude.

[Badnik Mechanic]

Also, give it a rest Hogfather. You hate it, we get it.

Oh how typcal. Yeah I get it, Lost World has become one of 'those games' that this forum now has which we're not allowed to criticise anymore or that whenever someone does criticise regardless as to what they say everything gets ignored in favour of the excuses or finding something to belittle what was said in order to build the game up to something which is not, or to somehow bring the criticisms to a state where 'they must be wrong because of this.'

I've played this game and I didn't like it, and I didn't like it for the reasons specified in my preview. People were saying VERY similar things before I wrote that and in following previews people have been saying similar things again.

But nooooo. Why should we pay attention to what people keep saying or keep bringing up as problems from when they actually played the game? Even if their preview is positive or mixed, we're just ignoring the same complaints being brought up, but they must be wrong. It's not like those people who have played the game have actually played the game... . .. . oh.

[Soniman]

To be fair, for every negative preview that you find of this game there's about five positive ones you can also find.

 

So, I don't know what to say....Opinions and blah blah blah..

 

Not saying people who have issues with the game are wrong or misinformed, just that from what ive seen the game's reception overall has been pretty positive.

[Diogenes]

I can't really take a complaint seriously when it basically boils down to "I didn't try to engage with the game in any way; I just wanted fast to happen".

[Scar]

Negative previews are more important than positive ones. Especially to a developer looking to polish the game up before launch.

[Wraith]

Negative previews are more important than positive ones. Especially to a developer looking to polish the game up before launch.

 

That doesn't mean we should ignore all the positive reviews and start worrying over the negative one though. 

[TrueBlue]

Negative previews are more important than positive ones. Especially to a developer looking to polish the game up before launch.

 

Aye, one can only improve through constructive criticism.

[Narukami07]

Aye, one can only improve through constructive criticism.

 

Yes, but like the user above just said, we still cannot overlook even the positive one's. So i don't believe negative reviews are more important than positive reviews (heck even positive reviews aren't allergic to criticism either), both can go hand to hand. 

Edited August 31, 2013 by Narukami07

[Radrappy]

Oh how typcal. Yeah I get it, Lost World has become one of 'those games' that this forum now has which we're not allowed to criticise anymore or that whenever someone does criticise regardless as to what they say everything gets ignored in favour of the excuses or finding something to belittle what was said in order to build the game up to something which is not, or to somehow bring the criticisms to a state where 'they must be wrong because of this.'

I've played this game and I didn't like it, and I didn't like it for the reasons specified in my preview. People were saying VERY similar things before I wrote that and in following previews people have been saying similar things again.

But nooooo. Why should we pay attention to what people keep saying or keep bringing up as problems from when they actually played the game? Even if their preview is positive or mixed, we're just ignoring the same complaints being brought up, but they must be wrong. It's not like those people who have played the game have actually played the game... . .. . oh.

 

That's not at it at all.  I read your preview, it was insightful and while I disagreed with almost everything in it, I appreciated it.  But there's no point in bringing up your complaints at every turn.  At this point in the game, spamming negative previews really doesn't achieve anything.  The game is coming out in about two months which means it's pretty much done or being finalized right now.  Criticisms won't do a lick of good anymore.  All you're doing is bringing down people who are exited/hopeful.

 

Once the game comes out, feel free to pick up a copy and blast it to your heart's content.  As it is now though, all you're doing is giving this place a bad atmosphere.   

Edited August 31, 2013 by Radrappy

[Ducktor Naldush]

 

Once the game comes out, feel free to pick up a copy and blast it to your heart's content.  As it is now though, all you're doing is giving this place a bad atmosphere.   

 

Now, excuse me If I pop out of the blue like this but...The guy is just speaking his mind about the game. He's not offending anyone, let alone trying to "give this place a bad atmosphere". This is a message board, as long as we are respectful to each other opinions are accepted, right?

[Badnik Mechanic]

 All you're doing is bringing down people who are exited/hopeful

 

Are you seriously saying, that people shouldn't post previews of the game unless it's nothing but positives because those who are excited might get offended?

 

spamming negative previews really doesn't achieve anything

 

Except for informing the consumer as to what they'll get/expect for their pound/dollar/Euro/groats.