Your Unanswered Sonic Questions

[Kareemadeem]

What created the Time Eater?

[Tani Coyote]

What created the Time Eater?

 

Well, it's existed since prehistoric times based on Eggman's remark that it's primordial.

 

So it probably, like a god or other divine being, created itself. Or possibly came to exist naturally as the span of time grew and grew.

 

Or maybe it existed since time began.

 

Assuming Earth is nothing special there's the chance there's more than one Time Eater, all spread throughout the universe...

Edited March 15, 2013 by Ogilvie Maurice

[Mysterious X]

What happens if I lose all my lives in Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode I or II?

[Tani Coyote]

What happens if I lose all my lives in Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode I or II?

 

I'd presume you just have to start from the beginning of the level again as in any other title. The continue system is obsolete these days now that it's possible to save a game reliably.

 

I mean, yes, using the old "lose your lives start from the very beginning of the game" thing might have helped it seem more like a true sequel but those traits were due to technical limitations, not the idea of the games themselves.

Edited March 15, 2013 by Ogilvie Maurice

[Mysterious X]

So I won't have to finish all levels and collect all the emeralds... Suits me.

 

But this is kinda confusing, I think it should be that way because collecting lives is pretty easy in both games, in Episode I there's the Road of Cards in Casino Street, you could collect about 10 lives every time you beat it, so the continue thing after losin isn't needed...

Edited March 15, 2013 by Mysterious X

[Tani Coyote]

So I won't have to finish all levels and collect all the emeralds... Suits me.

 

But this is kinda confusing, I think it should be that way because collecting lives is pretty easy in both games, in Episode I there's the Road of Cards in Casino Street, you could collect about 10 lives every time you beat it, so the continue thing after losin isn't needed...

 

You just sent me down memory lane. I remember gaming that level over and over for lives to help with the harder stages. They just came out like candy.

 

With such a great life count a forced full restart at the end of lives could work, but really it's just an obsolete feature, having to restart, unless the game is meant to be very classic like that from the start. When in doubt, put a big warning that a full restart is the consequence of losing all your lives.

 

I've also heard some people argue for abolition of lives entirely and using a Storybook system of infinite respawns, but I digress.

 

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Who were Eggman's parents? What caused him to go down the road of evil, really? Between Maria and Gerald, it sounds like his family were pretty much of very good moral fiber. What caused him to turn out so wrong?

[Mauro Fonseca]

I'd say it was Gerald's fall, but he does express surprise at that in Sonic Adventure 2, doesn't he? Hmm.

[Mysterious X]

You just sent me down memory lane. I remember gaming that level over and over for lives to help with the harder stages. They just came out like candy.

 

With such a great life count a forced full restart at the end of lives could work, but really it's just an obsolete feature, having to restart, unless the game is meant to be very classic like that from the start. When in doubt, put a big warning that a full restart is the consequence of losing all your lives.

 

I've also heard some people argue for abolition of lives entirely and using a Storybook system of infinite respawns, but I digress.

 

I got your point, forcing full restart is almost ancient and unacceptable for today's gamers, I also disagree with canceling the lives system, infinite respawns isn't Sonic style at all, could be for fighting games or shooters with checkpoints all over the stage.

 

Who were Eggman's parents? What caused him to go down the road of evil, really? Between Maria and Gerald, it sounds like his family were pretty much of very good moral fiber. What caused him to turn out so wrong?

 

Well I believe it happens a lot, that one's parents or grandparents are killed in the nastiest way, I don't know the relation between Eggman and Maria. (This is my new question, is she possible his aunt?)

Especially if he was young when he found out, when he discovers how the ones who killed his grandfather were getting great help from him, it becomes a grudge and he vows to destroy everyone who harmed the ones he loved and made him suffer... THUS, he becomes evil, even being a genius won't hold him back then.

 

Edit:

 

I'd say it was Gerald's fall, but he does express surprise at that in Sonic Adventure 2, doesn't he? Hmm.

 

Oh, in that case, then obviously, his parents died before they could raise him well, even if they were so good but growing up without the parents won't allow him to become good as well.

Edited March 16, 2013 by Mysterious X

[Tani Coyote]

Maria and Eggman are cousins, since they both call Gerald their grandfather.

 

I always liked the idea Gerald's execution basically shamed the family and Eggman's father became hard on him to succeed so as to one day redeem the legacy. Presumably this overbearing personality could have had negative effects; Eggman's hardworking and brilliant, but he's bitter and just wants to use his talents for evil instead of good. The fact he acts like a child also screams that he may have been denied a good childhood...

[Mysterious X]

Maria and Eggman are cousins, since they both call Gerald their grandfather.

 

I always liked the idea Gerald's execution basically shamed the family and Eggman's father became hard on him to succeed so as to one day redeem the legacy. Presumably this overbearing personality could have had negative effects; Eggman's hardworking and brilliant, but he's bitter and just wants to use his talents for evil instead of good. The fact he acts like a child also screams that he may have been denied a good childhood...

 

You just got yourself an answer!

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And since we came to the subject of Sonic the Hedgehog 4, what will I get when I collect all the red rings in Episode II?

If it's really something awesome then I'll keep trying until they're all mine!

[Tani Coyote]

And since we came to the subject of Sonic the Hedgehog 4, what will I get when I collect all the red rings in Episode II?

If it's really something awesome then I'll keep trying until they're all mine!

 

http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Red_Star_Ring#Sonic_the_Hedgehog_4:_Episode_II

 

"Red Star Rings make an appearance in Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode II, the only purpose they serve in this game is for 100% completion as well as an achievement/trophy."

 

Sounds like they're the biggest letdown for a special addition since Shadow the Hedgehog's Expert mode... they yield nothing after so much work.

[Mysterious X]

Are you serious..? This is like 0% awesome... What a disappointment.

 

Well here's a question many would be interested in...

Is Tails Doll only a legend? It did appear in Sonic R, but did it have a part of a storyline?

[The Conductor]

No. Tails Doll had no story line, it was just an extra playable character.

 

In the Archie Comics though, Eggman used it to sneak bombs into New Mobotropolis.

[Spin Attaxx]

What caused him to go down the road of evil, really? Between Maria and Gerald, it sounds like his family were pretty much of very good moral fiber. What caused him to turn out so wrong?

Probably some combination of Gerald's execution and his own egomania.

Edited March 16, 2013 by Spin Attaxx

[Tani Coyote]

Probably some combination of Gerald's execution and his own egomania.

 

But that's too simple! I want his parents to be partly to blame for the fact he's a crazy, comedically evil git!

 

One wonders if he was the kid who was always bullied and that's why he overeats...

[iDEATH]

What is the actual canon plot of ShTH? What plot line through the game is the  actual one, I think I read somewhere that the all hero plot line is the canon one is that right?

[Spin Attaxx]

Honestly, you could say something like Shadow meeting Mewtwo and going back to the past where he had to wipe out Genesect to get a Chaos Emerald then ride a ferrari through space, and as long as it is placed in between Westopolis and the Last Story, it'd pass off as the canon line.

Edited March 16, 2013 by Spin Attaxx

[The Conductor]

I read an interesting thought that the canon storyline was given away in the theme song; "One step forward and two steps back", i.e. one good mission, followed by two evil missions. I've never tried it myself.

 

Personally, I think that all the levels happened, in some order in Shadow the Hedgehog but I really don't care enough to think about it.

[Tani Coyote]

What is the actual canon plot of ShTH? What plot line through the game is the  actual one, I think I read somewhere that the all hero plot line is the canon one is that right?

 

It might be more complex than that. However:

 

Eggman reveals to Shadow that he's not an android in the final battle. Logically this means that the scenes with him being told he's an android are likely canon. It must branch off somewhere from there, of course. But it definitely narrows things down.

 

Over at the SEGA forums someone proposed pretty much all the events excluding the ending are canon, Shadow just is given a choice which ones he wants to aid.

 

Really hard to determine what choices he made canonically...

Edited March 16, 2013 by Ogilvie Maurice

[iDEATH]

Surely if every possibility happened then that opens up a gazillion plot holes, aren't there some stories  where shadow isn't an android? Also he kills eggman in some of the stories.....

[Tani Coyote]

Well I think the "all events happened" proposal excludes the endings and probably Shadow-centric incidents (Eggman still has his army of androids, Black Doom still attacks Central City, etc.). Obviously all ten endings can't be true, because that negates the true ending. At most only one of the ten endings could be canon.

[Mysterious X]

No. Tails Doll had no story line, it was just an extra playable character.

 

In the Archie Comics though, Eggman used it to sneak bombs into New Mobotropolis.

 

Thanks.

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To be less of a spammer, I gathered 3 questions in my mind:

 

1. Instead of spamming the forum with a 'Help' thread that will be locked with a couple of posts I'll ask it here, my gamepad isn't working for both Sonic the Hedgehog 4 episodes, I know, I set it through the launcher, it didn't work.

2. If there is a thread for Sonic Adventure DX modifications around here, please redirect me.

3. Sonic's Homing Attack was inspired by the flame shield dash attack in Sonic the Hedgehog 3. True or false?

[Tani Coyote]

3. Sonic's Homing Attack was inspired by the flame shield dash attack in Sonic the Hedgehog 3. True or false?

 

There probably is some merit of truth to this. The attack looks cool and was in the later classics, so it probably was the basis.

 

Let us also consider that the Electric Shield was added in; the Bubble Shield was left obviously out due to lack of water gameplay. So why no flame shield...? Because without the homing, it's pretty much redundant as its functions can be filled by a normal shield.

[Mysterious X]

You're right, I remember that Sonic the Hedgehog 3 and and Knuckles were the most enjoyable due to the great variety of characters and skills. I feel like I'm gonna start playing them again and if I'm stuck in the same place I always get stuck in in 3, I'll be sure to ask for a tip here.

[Tani Coyote]

I got one.

 

What the hell is up with the Pumpkin-shaped spires in SA2?

 

It just clicked to me and I'm thinking, "...wait what?"

 

Because in retrospect, that's pretty freaking weird.