To Classic Fans: Is Sonic Generations worth buying?

[Brad]

There is a bit of platforming in Sonic 2 but it's really run from A to B and do a bit of platforming to make the game more interesting. The game was primarilly about speed.

And Sonic 2 was the best Sonic game.

All Sonic games can be classed as "get from point A to B". Hell, I'm sure every game can. It's what content you find in-between that makes the game. Sonic 2 was more speed orientated sure, but it provided players with clever level designs with plenty of room to explore. Sonic has never just been "speed".

Edited September 23, 2012 by Zero-Boom

[BarleyFields]

I actually think Sonic 3&K was the best Sonic game, personally. Took everything about Sonic 2 and made it even better.

I didn't play Sonic 3 (I'm not sure what the K is about) much but what I did play seemed to slow paced. It was good but it went back to the block platforming of Sonic 1 instead of focusing on the great speed level designs in Sonic 2.

Sonic 2 had better level design because it allowed you to keep up at Sonic speed. I would agree that the save feature in Sonic 3 was cool.

[Coral]

There is a bit of platforming in Sonic 2 but it's really run from A to B and do a bit of platforming to make the game more interesting. The game was primarilly about speed.

And Sonic 2 was the best Sonic game.

I'm not so sure about it being all about speed. Even if Sonic 2 had more boosters than Sonic 1, it still emphasized platforming in the later levels. Mystic Cave, Hilltop Zone and Metropolis seem like some good examples. Mystic Cave has those vines and spike blocks, Hilltop has the slow moving lifts, and Metropolis has many gimmicks revolving around mechanical objects (cogs, nuts, bolts).

And you say Sonic's friends are terrible. What do you mean by that if I may ask? Sonic 2 introduced Tails. Sonic CD, which came out before Sonic 2, introduced Amy. Is there an exception to the terrible friends rule?

[CrownSlayers Shadow]

Sonic's friends are pretty dumb to be honest.

Dude, I just going to let you know this right now. If you don't ever want to be called a troll on this forum anymore, never say that again because that will piss off a lot of people here.

At the very least give some substance and explain why you don't like them. You'll still get called out on it, but people may not call "trolololo" when you explain.

[StaticMania]

I didn't play Sonic 3 (I'm not sure what the K is about) much but what I did play seemed to slow paced. It was good but it went back to the block platforming of Sonic 1 instead of focusing on the great speed level designs in Sonic 2.

Sonic 2 had better level design because it allowed you to keep up at Sonic speed. I would agree that the save feature in Sonic 3 was cool.

Sonic the hedgehog 3 & Knuckles.

[Diogenes]

To be fair, in the eyes of the more passionate people who delved into the mechanics of Classic Sonic like Diogenes, you've probably just set off one hell of a powder keg.

I've given up on him.

If he doesn't know what rolling is, explaining it to him would be like trying to explain particle physics to a toddler.

[SenEDDtor Missile]

I've given up on him.

If he doesn't know what rolling is, explaining it to him would be like trying to explain particle physics to a toddler.

Well there are others, you were just the one I remember the most because I see you make the arguments the most often :3.

[BarleyFields]

Dude, I just going to let you know this right now. If you don't ever want to be called a troll on this forum anymore, never say that again because that will piss off a lot of people here.

At the very least give some substance and explain why you don't like them. You'll still get called out on it, but people may not call "trolololo" when you explain.

I'm sorry guys but you have to remember I have been out of this fanbase for a while and I just assumed everyone wouldn't like Sonic's friends.

It's like the way you would assume people wouldn't like the Matrix sequels or the Star Wars prequels. You'll just have to bear with me getting used to the fanbase again.

And in relation to the friends. I have a bit of a soft spot or Tails but otherwise nope. I don't like any of them.

[Brad]

In fact, regarding the whole "speed" thing - I'd recommend you watch this through. It's super thorough and well thought out, and pretty much describes Sonic's gimmick of speed.

[BarleyFields]

I've given up on him.

If he doesn't know what rolling is, explaining it to him would be like trying to explain particle physics to a toddler.

Well that's a bit over the top isn't it?

I'm not a great Sonic player like you and I'm sorry for that.

[Chaos Warp]

In fact, regarding the whole "speed" thing - I'd recommend you watch this through. It's super thorough and well thought out, and pretty much describes Sonic's gimmick of speed.

That was already posted in this thread..........

[Old dead account]

Sonic 3 & Knuckles seemed to have the act 1 levels more platforing based whereas the act 2's were more speed based in a sense. So what did you think about the other 2D games like the Advance games or the Rush series? Oh and I do recommend Generations.

[Brad]

That was already posted in this thread..........

Ah, apologies. Can't hurt a re-watch though, right?

[BarleyFields]

That was already posted in this thread..........

It's ok I saw it.

I'll try to get round to watch it.

Sonic 3 & Knuckles seemed to have the act 1 levels more platforing based whereas the act 2's were more speed based in a sense. So what did you think about the other 2D games like the Advance games or the Rush series? Oh and I do recommend Generations.

I haven't played Advance or Rush because I never had the nintendo handhelds.

[StaticMania]

It's ok I saw it.

I'll try to get round to watch it.

I haven't played Advance or Rush because I never had the nintendo handhelds.

I suggest Advance 2 and the Rush games if you like speed.

[CrownSlayers Shadow]

I'm sorry guys but you have to remember I have been out of this fanbase for a while and I just assumed everyone wouldn't like Sonic's friends.

It's like the way you would assume people wouldn't like the Matrix sequels or the Star Wars prequels. You'll just have to bear with me getting used to the fanbase again.

Actually, no I wouldn't assume that.

First and foremost, it doesn't matter if you hate something and you know that a lot of people hate something; NEVER assume that everyone else will hate it too because, generally speaking, for every person you know who hates something like the Star Wars prequels, there's always someone out there who loves it. And while there are things that don't always hold true to that, it goes without saying that you can't always assume something to be the case when you don't have the details, and that goes especially if you've been out of the series for a while.

There are so many fans for a lot of the characters like Rouge, Knuckles, Shadow, Silver, Blaze, and Big that even if you've not been a part of the series, you would at least know about their reception by looking them up. Not trying to be an asshole, but in 2012 when the internet is as ubiqutous as it is, ignorance isn't much an excuse anymore.

Edited September 23, 2012 by ChaosSupremeSonic

[BarleyFields]

I suggest Advance 2 and the Rush games if you like speed.

It's a bit daft to buy the handhelds just for those games though.

I don't believe in Emulators.

Actually, no I wouldn't assume that.

First and foremost, it doesn't matter if you hate something and you know that a lot of people hate something; NEVER assume that everyone else will hate it too because, generally speaking, for every person you know who hates something like the Star Wars prequels, there's always someone out there who loves it. And while there are some things that don't hold true to that, it goes without saying that you can't always assume something to be the case, and that goes especially if you've been out of the series for a while.

There are so many fans for a lot of the characters like Rouge, Knuckles, Shadow, Silver, Blaze, and Big that even if you've not been a part of the series, you would at least know about their reception by looking them up.

I know about these characters since I played Adventures and I, erm, hate them all ,..ooops.

But yeah sorry about the blunt comment earlier. Didn't think lol.

[Goldenlink64]

I'm sorry guys but you have to remember I have been out of this fanbase for a while and I just assumed everyone wouldn't like Sonic's friends.

It's like the way you would assume people wouldn't like the Matrix sequels or the Star Wars prequels. You'll just have to bear with me getting used to the fanbase again.

Well there's your problem. Don't assume, especially on here. You should know that when you assume, that means that you're 'making an ass out of u and me'.

Edit: Goddamn it, ninja'd by ChaosSurpremeSonic...

Edited September 23, 2012 by Goldenlink64

[CrownSlayers Shadow]

It's fine if you don't like them, just don't go saying they're dumb without backing up your opinions. Many of us hate the crap out of that here, and we jump on folks who do that.

You should know that when you assume, that means that you're 'making an ass out of u and me'.

Wow...I really like the way you put it right there. I need to remember this.

Edited September 23, 2012 by ChaosSupremeSonic

[Coral]

I'm sorry guys but you have to remember I have been out of this fanbase for a while and I just assumed everyone wouldn't like Sonic's friends.

And in relation to the friends. I have a bit of a soft spot or Tails but otherwise nope. I don't like any of them.

I can respect that, though I would consider that a nostalgic bias for Tails possibly over the other characters. If you really don't like them, then you won't mind Generations at all. They really haven't much a point to be there than to say "YOU GOT THIS SANIC!" and missions. Most of the gameplay is all Sonic and his classic self, and there's lots of speed to be had in the game. In fact, it's so speedy that it's rather short. You could beat the entire game in less than a day if you really wanted to.

You say you have a soft spot for Tails, so you may like his Classic Sonic mission in Chemical Plant. Tails helicopters you around the place and you can summon him at will.

I won't really go into the physics aspect since you seem to not care about those. The only cons you may not like about the game is the final boss and perhaps the obligatory few missions you have to do to progress. The boss actually is regarded as one of the worst Sonic bosses in some circles. Let's just say you'll be hearing a whole lot from Sonic's friends throughout the entire fight. The missions involve doing some challenges with Sonic's crew. Racing, minigames, all that stuff.

[SenEDDtor Missile]

Wow...I really like the way you put it right there. I need to remember this.

Put it in your words of the wise.

[sonfan1984]

If you want a good Sonic game, stay away from this and keep playing the classics.

So basically stay away from every Sonic game past the Genesis.

[BarleyFields]

That was already posted in this thread..........

I like this video but I don't actually agree with it. Sonic 2, which is widely considered the best Sonic game by critics, is very fast paced with some levels being able to be won very quickly (Emerald Hill, Casino Night, Aquatic Ruin bar the water). These are the best levels too because they allow you to do fast paced platforming and to win the level as fast as possible.

So while he's right that there was more platforming then you think the game was always at it's best when you were able to run quickly and hop over the obstacles and platform at fast speed.

[SIXTH-RATE SOMA]

It's like the way you would assume people wouldn't like the Matrix sequels or the Star Wars prequels. You'll just have to bear with me getting used to the fanbase again.

I'll tell you right here, comrade: Even if you can't see the value in things like the Adventure games or Unleashed, there are a lot of people who think they're better than the sum of their parts (though this goes more for Unleashed than Adventure, but whatever). Sure the Adventure games were convoluted and stuffed with gameplay that was rather out of place, but they were pretty charming in that sort of B-movie sense, and although they've aged quite a bit they still entertain quite a few people today. And though I personally don't like Unleashed, it was the first game that gave us that Generations gameplay you see now, so it's not all that bad. Even if they aren't quite as excellent as the Classic games, they're not all that bad, so people will generally be divided on their quality.

Heroes is pretty divisive, but there are generally a couple people who think they got a few things right.

With Shadow and Sonic the Hedgehog 2006, though... finding a sensible fan of those ones is as finding a needle in a haystack.

I hope that helps a bit with getting re-situated.

[CrownSlayers Shadow]

With Shadow and Sonic the Hedgehog 2006, though... finding a sensible fan of those ones is as finding a needle in a haystack.

And I think that's actually underestimating it considering that they tend to bring themselves out in the open.