Xbox 720 / NeXtBox / Durango / Infinity

[Ming Ming Hatsune]

Internet-connected. The next Xbox must be internet-connected to use. This is source of the “always on”/“always online” rumors and isn’t as Draconian as many seem to believe.

 

Eh, yes it is Paul. Yes it is. 

[Chaos Warp]

Yeah, it's doomed

Let's check the most important thing: 

 

Internet-connected. The next Xbox must be internet-connected to use. This is source of the “always on”/“always online” rumors and isn’t as Draconian as many seem to believe.

 

Yep, most definitely doomed to suck.

Edited April 25, 2013 by Generations (Chaos Warp)

[Tani Coyote]

The constant internet usage drastically cuts into their market share among budget gamers. Unless you have some pretty high quality internet, they can say goodbye to a lot of purchases. The casual gamer fanbase (who normally don't have that much to spend) are going to be turned off massively by that I think.

 

The different pricing model is genius as it acknowledges the difficulties of coming up with a lump sum. ...but this still spits in the face of the aforementioned point.

 

Windows 8? They better have a touchpad of some sort. Because that OS is absolute garbage.

 

Their choice of a cheaper 360 is probably the best thing I'm seeing so far, since it allows them to still capture market share lost by all the drawbacks of the newer model.

 

Y'know, I know I like to make hits on Nintendo sometimes, but at least they're not becoming increasingly more ridiculous with all these crazy anti-piracy controls. Stuff like perpetual internet connections or used game blocks are going to ruin the PS4 and 720, I think.

Edited April 25, 2013 by Ogilvie Maurice

[Debug Ring]

I wonder if the new Xbox is capable of dumping soil for the grave Microsoft are digging themselves...

[PSI Wind]

And the price point. It's five-hundred and ninety-nine us dollars all over again.

[SIXTH-RATE SOMA]

I wonder if the new Xbox is capable of dumping soil for the grave Microsoft are digging themselves...

 

They shall be buried with fifty pizzas to ferry them into company after-life/buyouts.

[SuperLink]

I'm still gonna wait to see what happens. i.e. is this source really legit? Why would this guy just tell everyone what the console does if he's working on it and supposed to be keeping it secret? It's bizarre :?

[Tani Coyote]

And the price point. It's five-hundred and ninety-nine us dollars all over again.

 

To be fair the "mortgage" style console takes care of this problem.

 

Doesn't change the fact the required internet part is going to enormously cut into their profits. If I'm playing Sonic why the hell would I need to be online? It's stupid, and punishes those without the money to pay for a good connection.

[Badnik Mechanic]

*reads the newest info*

 

Byyyyyeeeee! Yes! Bye bye!

 

 

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Always Online means... when Microsoft decide to end support for that Xbox... your machines and all your games are useless... and won't that make you happy?

[Solkia]

an even cheaper 360? I'm listening.

[Gabz Girl]

Somebody grab me a popcorn gif, stat!

 

 

Yeahhhh this is not sounding good...is it May yet?

[PSI Wind]

To be fair the "mortgage" style console takes care of this problem.

 

Doesn't change the fact the required internet part is going to enormously cut into their profits. If I'm playing Sonic why the hell would I need to be online? It's stupid, and punishes those without the money to pay for a good connection.

Well, Generations on Steam requires an internet connection but Steam is just a service on a machine that most people always have connected, not a console.

[Ming Ming Hatsune]

I'm still gonna wait to see what happens. i.e. is this source really legit? Why would this guy just tell everyone what the console does if he's working on it and supposed to be keeping it secret? It's bizarre :?

 

Well personally I'm going to believe him. Paul has been reviewing beta and final Microsoft products for years. The new Xbox is definitely a Microsoft product. He wouldn't lie to us, would he? 

 

However I cannot answer on why he is allowed to say this.

Edited April 25, 2013 by Ming Ming Suzy

[Komodin]

Price. Microsoft will initially offer two pricing models for the console, offering a standalone version for $499 and then a $299 version that requires a two-year Xbox LIVE Gold commitment at an expected price of $10 per month.

 

Hmm... At $10 per month, the Xbox Live service would be worth $240 total, which, added on the (essentially) $300 down payment for the system itself, would total the minimum price of $540.

 

... Suddenly, that price models doesn't look all that attractive...

[Yong]

What worries me about the May 12th reveal is that the new Xbox will indeed require and always online connection, and Microsoft says NOTHING about it at the official reveal, in light of all the negative feedback surrounding it. It'd be like Sony revealing that the PS3 will require mandatory hard drive installs on some of its games as a feature at its unveiling, which it didn't.

 

 

Hmm... At $10 per month, the Xbox Live service would be worth $240 total, which, added on the (essentially) $300 down payment for the system itself, would total the minimum price of $540.

 

... Suddenly, that price models doesn't look all that attractive...

 

Because you end up paying $50 more over 2 years? Well better to NOT have the new Xbox for 1 and a half years than spending a small fraction extra of its price, right?

Edited April 25, 2013 by Yong

[Conando]

>Always online confirmed

 

 

They did it, they actually did it. Despite the fact that it was pretty obvious up until this point, there was still part of me that thought Microsoft could not be that stupid, but...

 

[Mando-Whirl-Wind]

Well, Generations on Steam requires an internet connection but Steam is just a service on a machine that most people always have connected, not a console.

Actualy, you can go offline on steam at anytime, so it doesnt require you to always be online, unless of course the game is online multiplayer only

[Ultimate Waffle]

Ugh. While I am usually always online when I use my 360, Wii, ect., this online required nonsense is complete bs. Like Hogfather says, what will happen when 720 online is no longer supported? What if your internet is down for some reason? Xbox Live isn't even free, you will have to pay for everytime you turn on your console. Ugh

[Ming Ming Hatsune]

Xbox Live isn't even free, you will have to pay for everytime you turn on your console. Ugh

 

Not really. I assume you don't need Gold to play your games, you just need to be online. That's all. If you want Youtube, multiplayer, party chat and other great bonuses that's when you need Gold.

[Silencer226]

 

Windows 8? They better have a touchpad of some sort. Because that OS is absolute garbage.

 

Ok, I know this thread isn't about windows 8 but I've been using it for several months now, and this OS is not garbage. It works fine, I've had very little trouble navigating it without a touchpad, and the thought that you need it to work with it is completely stupid.

 

Again always online pops up... this is really happening it seems, dear god...

[Urban Flow]

I don't care if its always online or not to be perfectly honest. I just wanna see the console already.

[Detective Shadzter]

I wonder if they have any new IPs planned for this generation. 

[Conando]

They do, it's called Sprockets of Combat.

[Urban Flow]

I wonder if they have any new IPs planned for this generation. 

I am wondering the same too.

[KHCast]

Not really. I assume you don't need Gold to play your games, you just need to be online. That's all. If you want Youtube, multiplayer, party chat and other great bonuses that's when you need Gold.

things that should be available to everyone at this point. The fact that Microsoft didn't catch on previous generation with this complaint surprises me...it's ridiculous. Edited April 25, 2013 by Hedgehogs Boost