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  • YouTube goes after Balena Productions' Sonic Animations, Marking Them "Made For Kids"

    Apparently even a Sonic video featuring a rotten corpse is for kids.

    It’s no secret that YouTube isn’t exactly the best place for animators these days. From radical shifts in the algorithm to unfriendly policy changes, animation channels have had it rough. YouTube’s latest method of making things difficult for animators stems from its habit of forcing random animated videos to be marked as “Made for Kids,” seemingly only because the video in question features animation and children-friendly characters. 

    Amongst the channels they’ve seemingly targeted in order to force this designation is the Sonic animation channel Balena Productions. They’ve been going after Balena since last year, marking several of their videos as “made for kids.” Balena’s latest video, their “Sonic in Scared Stupid: The Final Chapter” preview video, was hit by this not long after it was uploaded. You can check it out below, but be forewarned, this “kids” video features a werehog zombie with its flesh falling off:

    So, why is this such a big deal? Videos hit by this designation have their ability to do well in YouTube’s algorithm neutered, while also having their comments disabled, and existing comments deleted. And as a side effect, videos that clearly aren’t made with kids in mind end up finding their way into YouTube’s supposedly kid-friendly app, effectively defeating the purpose of the whole thing.

    To give you an idea of how targeted towards animation this is, even our own YouTube has been affected by this, with most of our uploads focusing on animation from the games forcibly being marked “Made for Kids.” The latest video of ours to be hit by this was our off-screen recording of Sonic Superstars’ animated opening. Our other off-screen recordings of the game remain untouched.

    What made for kids does to a video’s metrics.

    What Made for Kids does to a video’s metrics.

    But what is a minor annoyance for us can be apocalyptic for channels like Balena Productions, which relies on their channel’s ad revenue to fund their animations. Since MFK videos do very poorly in YouTube’s algorithm, that limits a video’s views, and thus its ability to generate revenue, affecting a channel’s ability to survive.

    Of course, when a video is marked MFK, it can be appealed, both through YouTube’s built-in appeal system and through Twitter, but these appeals are often rejected, sometimes within minutes of the appeal being made. Anyone who follows Balena on Twitter is probably familiar with how this typically goes with Team YouTube at this point. They’ve sometimes managed to get the designation removed from a video, but it’s always a fight.

    What’s especially strange about all this is that it even goes against YouTube’s own policies, as Balena has pounted out. Specifically, videos made for “everyone” aren’t required to bear this designation. Balena’s videos are not usually brimming with cursing and gore, but they are very much something made for general audiences, something many of their videos note at their start (though this doesn’t always save them.)

    Another video with with MFK earlier this year.

    So… what can be done about this? Well, you can check out the marked videos for one, like the ones we embedded above. You can also watch older videos and like, comment, and subscribe on the affected channels. You can see what Steven Page had to say about this at his Sonic Revolution panel here.

    In the meantime, YouTube’s policy adds even more uncertainty and stress to animation YouTubers who are typically already dealing with a lot. On Twitter, Page has increasingly indicated that, due to YouTube’s policies, continuing to make these animations is becoming untenable. He may be near the end of his rope, “For the past week since the teaser was flagged, I’ve had a migraine and mild panic attacks. I also haven’t been sleeping much, and I feel numbness traveling through my body. It’s a ton of pressure to even stand up to these creeps, and it’s not worth it anymore.” 

    Hopefully, YouTube will eventually change this strange policy. The whole point of YouTube Kids is to make YouTube compliant to the Children’s Online Privacy Protection Act (or COPPA). Something tells me that forcing videos featuring zombified hedgehogs and a violent video game death to be made for kids doesn’t exactly make them COPPA compliant. YouTube’s community of animators deserve better than this.


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    CrownSlayers Shadow

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    In other words, we still have people with boomer mindsets pretending like they have no clue how broad a spectrum animation is.

    Wouldn’t nonsense like this only encourage YouTube’s competitors to take advantage of, you know, not doing that?

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    What really nags me isn't that videos are being flagged as being for kids, it's that it's so unlikely that they'll be unflagged.

    Like in the very least you should easily be able to tell YouTube that they made a mistake. The fact these appeals get rejected so quickly is really frustrating and sends a message to everyone that you can't own your own content when it's published. I get that you agree to content policing by using someone else's platform to publish your work but at the same time there should be some measure of two-way street in effect, especially if one side profits off your contributions to their platform. Instead it's like they make money on your work being on their platform yet refuse to interface with people when there are issues because they can't be bothered (too busy making money, I guess).

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    King Scoopa Koopa

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    6 hours ago, CrownSlayer’s Shadow said:

    Wouldn’t nonsense like this only encourage YouTube’s competitors to take advantage of, you know, not doing that?

    ...YouTube has competitors?

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    I don't think this Is fair to be honest they put a lot of hard work Into those video's and the effort to. It must be so annoying marking their videos made for kids.

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    CrownSlayers Shadow

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    12 hours ago, King Scoopa Koopa said:

    ...YouTube has competitors?

    Well, insofar as there are alternative video streaming platforms for the average Joe to make use of.

    To my knowledge, there’s Vimeo and Rumble. YouTube isn’t really unique than they are the most utilized, kinda like how there’s Bing as an alternative  search engine to Google while Google is still more utilized than Bing.

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    I never understood why YouTube kept on marking Balena's videos as just for kids, when he specifically said that they were not for kids.  This has been a major issue with YouTube lately as they keep on marking anything animated as "Just for Kids," despite the fact that most of the animations on YouTube are clearly not for kids.  It makes me sad that this happened because I loved Balena's videos and it's a shame that he can't really post any Sonic animations on YouTube because YouTube kept marking them as for kids.

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    King Scoopa Koopa

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    7 hours ago, CrownSlayer’s Shadow said:

    Well, insofar as there are alternative video streaming platforms for the average Joe to make use of.

    To my knowledge, there’s Vimeo and Rumble. YouTube isn’t really unique than they are the most utilized, kinda like how there’s Bing as an alternative  search engine to Google while Google is still more utilized than Bing.

    Never heard of Rumble, but Vimeo isn't really a viable competitor in this sense.

     

    I'm not sure if they pay content creators, for starters, but I do know that the guy who makes Botchamania, Maffew, had to stop using it because his videos were getting too many hits, and he'd have to pay to keep using them:

    I think that's as bad or worse than the situation Balena is dealing with.

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    CrownSlayers Shadow

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    8 hours ago, King Scoopa Koopa said:

    Never heard of Rumble, but Vimeo isn't really a viable competitor in this sense.

    I'm not sure if they pay content creators, for starters, but I do know that the guy who makes Botchamania, Maffew, had to stop using it because his videos were getting too many hits, and he'd have to pay to keep using them:

    I think that's as bad or worse than the situation Balena is dealing with.

    Yikes.

    Well, no wonder YouTube is able to get away with this stunt then.

    Interestingly enough, I saw GI Joe Resolute get hit by this Made For Kids thing despite being an animation that aired on Adult Swim and is literally the bloodiest animated GI Joe animation to date. As in you get to see the Cobra Commander slice someone’s throat in a fit of rage and then use their blood to paint the Cobra insignia on his safe house door.

    Because you know, for kids, right?

    That said, dumb shit like this on YouTube’s end will encourage a competitor somewhere down the line. It’s only a matter of time.

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    Huh. I should probably check my animations and see if they're marked as for kids. Haven't for a while.

    Like, my latest Sonic one (that I actually put much efort in) has Sally downing bottles of alcohol like it's fashionable.

    Edit: Doesn't look like it. Even the straight scene recreation videos don't have it happening. Weird.

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    I do wonder, is it possible for YouTube to abandon the COPPA law?  I mean, I know it's not easy to change up the law, but maybe there needs to be some changes to the COPPA law in order for things like this to not happen?

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    joe_schmoe99

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    I don't think it's possible to outright abandon the law itself, it's a law for a reason.

    BUT, I do think YouTube could be dealing with it in a much better and more creator-friendly way, even simply by allowing people to mark videos themselves and having no bullshit algorithms to force it upon every animation under the sun.

    I don't upload myself so I'm not 100% positive, but I think the option to manually mark your videos as "For Kids" or "For General Audiences" is there already. The problem lies in the fact that their god awful auto-rating system completely negates it, which is frankly a bunch of stinky poopy.

    It's not a difficult problem to solve, YouTube is just so far up its own ass that it doesn't give a shit about its creator base, ESPECIALLY animators.

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