illogical things in sonic games

[Unholy Sonic]

Why does the fastest thing alive need a hoverboard?

Easy one: Showing off !!

He knows he can outrun anyone on foot but Jet wanted to see how good he is on a board, and everyone knows it.... Sonic Loooooooves to take challenges even tho he knows he's gonna win.

[redmenace]

SA: I know the premise of rotating tails being able to generate enough force to sustain such a weight it's ridiculous and actually spinning them more than a handful of times is ridiculous as well YET although Tails spins his tails the right way when he's going upwards, he spuns it the wrong way when he's running through the ground (he should be pushed back, not run forwards like that). It annoyed me.

[Thirsty Pocket]

In Sonic heroes, Vector holds his comrades in his mouth as they spin in ball mode. How do they not get shredded by his teeth, or rather, how does vector not break his teeth on his spinning friends?

[Annie-Mae]

That's what it's like to drive in LA

* Blaze still lights fires underwater. How does that work?

The same way Spongebob and Patrick can light fire underwater...

Most everyone has covered the things that bother me, such as Charmy being able to carry a 200lb crocodile. I have to ask though why don't the girls only wear gloves and shoes? Rouge is too classy for full on nudity but Cream and Marine don't need more then tank tops, and Blaze should have been a lion with a mane or something fancy. The girls can wear as many cloths as they want, but why don't they put cloths on the guys? Charmy is the only one with a jacket, but I'm sure Shadow could've gotten a slick leather jacket for his game. This idea is a little unnerving.

Also, where in the world is Mighty?

Plus there is a matter of natural instinct to think about as well. Tails is a fox and even though he's still young, shouldn't Sonic be worried that he'll be a big meat eater when he gets older? Vector is 100% meat eater, you think he likes Vanilla for being a sweet heart, or would he want her sweet heart?

Edited May 11, 2009 by Annie-Mae

[ovarloard]

The same way Spongebob and Patrick can light fire underwater...

And the same way Ghost Rider stays aflame.

In Sonic heroes, Vector holds his comrades in his mouth as they spin in ball mode. How do they not get shredded by his teeth, or rather, how does vector not break his teeth on his spinning friends?

Grills.

[Blazey Firekitty]

Blaze should have been a lion with a mane or something fancy.

I actually wouldn't mind if Blaze were nude aside from just some basic accessories(Gloves, shoes, collar, hair band). LIke you implied, she can still look regal and fancy without a full body covering...there's a lot that can be done with hair styles and fur patterns. Because of her modest build, having her nude wouldn't make her any more sexualized than the male characters.

[redmenace]

Girls are fickle beings, they like clothes and that's why they use them. Man are fickle beings as well, but they like to show off in-

different ways.

Edited May 11, 2009 by redmenace

[Flyboy Fox]

I've always felt that all the clothes the female characters wear are unnecessary given that most of the central male characters are nude and not showing anything. But it's pretty much a long-established thing, so it would see a little aesthetically odd if they suddenly stopped wearing them or if females were introduced who were as uncovered as the males.

[Blue Blood]

Blaze does wear a full body covering, you know. In M&S Olympics she clearly has a purple stomach whereas it is white in all other games. She's wearing a skin-tight white suit with a purple jacket over the top usually.

EDIT: Despite generally clashing with in style, the lack of a full body covering is what most makes be dislike Sally. It's just a standard thing for the Sonic females character to have. I don't like seeing them without.

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Edited May 11, 2009 by Blue Blood

[ovarloard]

In Zero Gravity she wears a skin-tight, mostly purple suit.

[Blazey Firekitty]

I've always felt that all the clothes the female characters wear are unnecessary given that most of the central male characters are nude and not showing anything. But it's pretty much a long-established thing, so it would see a little aesthetically odd if they suddenly stopped wearing them or if females were introduced who were as uncovered as the males.

Maybe it could be something that could be introduced gradually, so as not to be so jarring. Though I'm even entirely sure that would work.;;

To me personally, I figure a Sonic character, male or female, only needs as much clothing to express themselves.

Blaze does wear a full body covering, you know. In M&S Olympics she clearly has a purple stomach whereas it is white in all other games. She's wearing a skin-tight white suit with a purple jacket over the top usually.

EDIT: Despite generally clashing with in style, the lack of a full body covering is what most makes be dislike Sally. It's just a standard thing for the Sonic females character to have. I don't like seeing them without.

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In Zero Gravity she wears a skin-tight, mostly purple suit.

Yeah, Blaze's alternate outfits are pretty cool. The long, Eggman-inspired robe/jacket is neat in its own way, but it's nice to see her branch out every now and then.

[Rusty Spy]

Girls are fickle beings, they like clothes and that's why they use them. Man are fickle beings as well, but they like to show off in-

different ways.

Not to mention the increasing amount of "fan art" that will come in indirect proportion to the amount of clothing on the females. *shudder*

[Flyboy Fox]

Not to mention the increasing amount of "fan art" that will come in indirect proportion to the amount of clothing on the females. *shudder*

Amy's dress hasn't exactly stemmed that flow. Although, all the gratuitious panty-shots probably helped with that.

[redmenace]

Blaze does wear a full body covering, you know. In M&S Olympics she clearly has a purple stomach whereas it is white in all other games. She's wearing a skin-tight white suit with a purple jacket over the top usually.

EDIT: Despite generally clashing with in style, the lack of a full body covering is what most makes be dislike Sally. It's just a standard thing for the Sonic females character to have. I don't like seeing them without.

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Yeah, Sally is the typical Mary Sue part of the Spotlight Stealing BrigadeTM but saying that it's her nakedness that slams her down... nah, but it does help since the other girls are all fully clothed. And yet, some of those Archie drawings makeme wonder what the hell is wrong with those people, they're way too explicit. A round over deviantart is pretty much what that leads to.

I've seen that some dislike her a lot because of her design though, since she doesn't fit Sonic and Tails and there I have the same opinion. It's the hair and the eyes, the face doesn't look right either nor the body but neither do the others from the Freedom Fighters ever did.

Well, opinion once again, I hope no one takes this personally.

Amy's dress hasn't exactly stemmed that flow. Although, all the gratuitious panty-shots probably helped with that.

Man just go to deviantart and type amy rose. Check the first, maybe the second page. Pretty tame one or two that are pushing. Now type Sally Acorn. I hope you have no one else in the room because it's embrassing.

And for Blaze, there's less than Amy. The more the covered, the lesser the perversion. I don't think they should have a cloth over their faces, but outright nakedness is just asking for it.

Edited May 11, 2009 by redmenace

[Blazey Firekitty]

Not to mention the increasing amount of "fan art" that will come in indirect proportion to the amount of clothing on the females. *shudder*

I've seen plenty of that sort of art of Blaze, despite her tendency to remain covered up. You underestimate the power of Rule 34.

[Blacklightning]

I facepalmed so hard that my hand glitched right through my head.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Anyway, one thing that really puzzles me is that Tails supposedly rivals Eggman in intelligence, yet never builds anything to nearly as much of a scale in terms of size OR quantity. Hell, come to think of it, he hasn't built many new toys for ages now, save for the big yellow screen thing he carries around in Unleashed and the occasional update to the Tornado. What happened? Did he run out of inspiration or something?

Speaking of misguided intellects, you'd think after at least FOUR failed attempts Eggman would've learned that relying on mystical age-old super powers that ain't his isn't actually going to get him anywhere. They backstab him each and every time and yet he still looks toward them for support! To think one of the most successful of his creations involved a room with four giant pistons in it (ala Sonic 1).

Speaking of failure from learning from past mistakes... why on EARTH do the Chaos Emeralds keep getting scattered all over the place before nearly every game? It'd be doing them a mighty big favour if they were kept together in a hard-to-reach spot so we weren't required to gather them one-by-one every time. Or better still, if they were just shot into the fucking sun so that the baddies can't abuse them for a change.

[Flyboy Fox]

Yeah, Sally is the typical Mary Sue part of the Spotlight Stealing BrigadeTM but saying that it's her nakedness that slams her down... nah, but it does help since the other girls are all fully clothed. And yet, some of those Archie drawings makeme wonder what the hell is wrong with those people, they're way too explicit. A round over deviantart is pretty much what that leads to.

I've seen that some dislike her a lot because of her design though, since she doesn't fit Sonic and Tails and there I have the same opinion. It's the hair and the eyes, the face doesn't look right either nor the body but neither do the others from the Freedom Fighters ever did.

Well, opinion once again, I hope no one takes this personally.

Sally was fine the way she was in SatAM, and she was fine when she started out in Archie. She only started to look vaguely pornographic when the artists decided to turn her from a cute large-headed chipmunk into a busty, long-legged, animé-styled woman with curves and long flowing hair.

She looks a little better now, but her image has definitely been sexualised far more than it needed to be.

Anyway, one thing that really puzzles me is that Tails supposedly rivals Eggman in intelligence, yet never builds anything to nearly as much of a scale in terms of size OR quantity. Hell, come to think of it, he hasn't built many new toys for ages now, save for the big yellow screen thing he carries around in Unleashed and the occasional update to the Tornado. What happened? Did he run out of inspiration or something?

Tails is super-smart, but techie stuff is more a hobby for him than a lifestyle. He's not driven by a thirst for power, and therefore he doesn't spend all his time setting up a production line. He'd rather just tinker with things when he feels inspired to, or when it could help, than dedicate his life to churning out machines.

[Blazey Firekitty]

Sally was fine the way she was in SatAM, and she was fine when she started out in Archie. She only started to look vaguely pornographic when the artists decided to turn her from a cute large-headed chipmunk into a busty, long-legged, animé-styled woman with curves and long flowing hair.

She looks a little better now, but her image has definitely been sexualised far more than it needed to be.

Part of the reason I like Sally is that she's believable as a woman, yet her gender has little to do with why I like her. If she were a guy named Ricky and showed the same confidence and emotional warmth, I'd care just as much.

So, making her into a stereotypical supermodel kinda undermines that.

I feel the same way about altering Blaze's figure. It's actually not that I don't want Blaze to seem sexy...it's that I want her to seem alluring in her own way, instead the shallow, conformist version of beauty that society tends to ram down our throats.

[redmenace]

Sally was fine the way she was in SatAM, and she was fine when she started out in Archie. She only started to look vaguely pornographic when the artists decided to turn her from a cute large-headed chipmunk into a busty, long-legged, animé-styled woman with curves and long flowing hair.

She looks a little better now, but her image has definitely been sexualised far more than it needed to be.

Well, she was better not sexualized, that I can agree with. But I think her old design (and new) doesn't mesh with Sonic and Tails' one though. It's not really important however, let's discuss the games.

Adding to your latter point about machinery being an hobby, Tails is still a kid as well. He'd like to see nature and enjoy it just like any kid would do.

[Flyboy Fox]

To be fair, almost all of the main cast are 'kids'. But Tails is one of the youngest, by a fairly large margin, agreed. It makes sense that he hasn't technically accomplished as much as Eggman yet, or for the forseeable future.

[Blazey Firekitty]

To be fair, almost all of the main cast are 'kids'. But Tails is one of the youngest, by a fairly large margin, agreed. It makes sense that he hasn't technically accomplished as much as Eggman yet, or for the forseeable future.

Another reason that Eggman has accomplished more may be that he almost literally has nothing else to do with his time besides building things.

Edited May 11, 2009 by BlazeyBakeneko

[Unholy Sonic]

Another reason that Eggman has accomplished more may be that he almost literally has nothing else to do with his time besides building things.

Not that he has nothing else to do but more like upgrading his mech.

He's gone from animals trapped in bots as fuel that also have animal/insect looks to the Eggpawns in heroes to the latest ones of Unleashed. (SA2 were gun's robots and let's forget '06.... with starwars stylez)

On a note, everytime Tails invents something its always a one time use beside's the tornado cause its either left over after its used or it gets destroyed.

Tails inventions are mostly to counter those of Eggman who are a real treath unlike the eggpawns and the boss mech that Sonic takes care of himself.

Regarding Eggman on this subject.

Why does a genius like him never notice that Sonic is taking longer to destroy his own giant mechanic or having a harder time defeating them than the Creatures/Gods he releases?

Compare the EggLancer then Dark Guardian wich were in the same continent....

[Flyboy Fox]

I'd me more concerned about the fact that Eggman pretty much shows Sonic EXACTLY where to hit him, and then repeatedly gives him openings to do so.

[Unholy Sonic]

I'd me more concerned about the fact that Eggman pretty much shows Sonic EXACTLY where to hit him, and then repeatedly gives him openings to do so.

The Egg Egg Devil Ray was the only boss with a shield... why can't he make a mech with a Shield that can witstand a certain number of hit but can still defend itself otherwise until it can't defend itself and THEN while its unguarded Sonic can hit him.

Today's Eggman giant creations are build in 2 Ways:

Can be hit anywhere freaking easily. (almost all of his creations)

Have only ONE SINGLE point where it can be hit and elsewhere its invinsible or it hurts. Final creation of eggman unleashed, egg devil ray, the classic final boss of sonic 2....)

Why can't he create something wich has one huge shield and multiple mini shields that regenerate after a while wich some of them can repell certain types of attacks with the usual dangerous weapons and that he can regenerate his health by sacrificing some parts of his mechs.

Example:

The Egg Destroyer.

Defensive Parts

1 Giant shield that must be broken before anything else

5 types of shields: 3 Anti homming, 2 Anti Boosting, 2 Anti spinning, 5 Normal ones, 3 Rejuvenating

Once in a while he switches between the anti ones while the normal ones are always there unless they were destroyed.

Those that are destroyed will come back 1 min after being destroyed.

The rejuvenating ones are a one time use: 1 used at 30% hp, 1 at 20%hp , 1 at 5%hp wich replentish only 15% of his health.

The offensive weapons are:

- Trembling Wheels wich slows him down and he won't be able to use the boost.

- Tornado Gears wich can knock him off if he's jumping and can throw him off when he uses the homming attack. Sometimes it throws metal piece wich are damaging.

- Egg oil wich makes the spin attack useless for 15 seconds.

- Egg-o-Bomb wich are... bombs.... that he can throw in the air or put down on the ground. The ground bombs can be repelled with the boost tho.

- Rarely but he will put out some flying egg pawns wich shoots non-lock on missles but can be destroyed with homming attack.

Support part

- Turbo Charger wich makes him attacks faster for 30 secs once in a while after loosing 40% health

It could be a fantastic final boss that HE created himself no?

Tho the idea was quick and the health can be replaced by a certain number of hit. If its a number of hits, to defeat him with the rejuvenating shields it would be between 13 to 18 hits. The rejuvenative shields are used every 5 or 4 hits.

.... whoops I kinda went a lil' too off topic there but I had to say that one....

[Phos]

Tell me how this man is able to even stand.

Robotnik moved like he was filled with helium in the OVA. But for modern Eggman, I have no clue.

If you touched a speed pad, how would you continue running faster? Once you touch it, you'll go fast, but once you leave it, you should be running at your normal speed.

And I don't know about you, but if I ran straight into a speed pad from the games, I'd fall and scrape my face.

Ever been on a moving walk way, like in an airport? They're much slower than boost pads, but you retain the momentum from it. Sonic keeps the momentum he gets from it as well.

What doesn't make sense about them is how he's able to remain upright. If he were to walk into one of them, it should yank his feet right out from under him. Sort of like this

Wouldn't it be easy for air particles and dust to infect the characters eyes'?

If you're running at 300 mph, wouldn't the wind keep you from opening your eyes?

It would make sense for a creature who evolved to be able to run that fast to be adapted to doing so.