Most Characters From Sonic X "Off the Table," Flynn Confirms

13 hours ago, Sega DogTagz said:

I mean.... are we losing anything of value here?

No one is clamoring to bring Mr. Tanaka back, and the series already has multiple evil alien empires on standby if they want to go that route.

 

If anything, I just consider this a hard line in the sand to ensure Thorndyke stays buried. Keep those nails in his coffin.

We need more named human GUN members so Topaz wouldn't hurt. Like the only GUN character we have is just the Commander.

2 hours ago, Shaddy Zaphod said:

I don't think we know that? It's suspect whether that god is actually real, let alone still alive. Being a "god" doesn't mean much in this series, it's akin to being powerful and ageless most of the time.

Yeah we do? It takes the ancients' souls to the afterlife after you help their spirits move on and it has some role in reviving Sage in the original/bad ending. I also wouldn't count out some possible connection to the Chaos Emeralds, including being one of the gods being mentioned in the original Classic Era games' story before the Western translators changed everything to make things simpler.

1 minute ago, The Swordsman said:

We need more named human GUN members so Topaz wouldn't hurt. Like the only GUN character we have is just the Commander.

Given that Sega has phased GUN out of the gameverse with Eggman having dissolved them during his takeover in Forces, I can't see that happening anytime soon. Except maybe in the movieverse?

13 minutes ago, Lorekitten said:

Given that Sega has phased GUN out of the gameverse with Eggman having dissolved them during his takeover in Forces, I can't see that happening anytime soon. Except maybe in the movieverse?

As explained in the same Bumblekast episode this news article is reporting on at 25:50 mark, GUN isn't dead or phased out according to Ian. They took heavy losses and now are recovering their strength. Hence the joke GUN is reloading.

8 minutes ago, The Swordsman said:

As explained in the same Bumblekast episode this news article is reporting on at 25:50 mark, GUN isn't dead or phased out according to Ian. They took heavy losses and now are recovering their strength. Hence the joke GUN is reloading.

I love bad puns and this one is magnificent.

16 hours ago, Sega DogTagz said:

I mean.... are we losing anything of value here?

No one is clamoring to bring Mr. Tanaka back, and the series already has multiple evil alien empires on standby if they want to go that route.

 

If anything, I just consider this a hard line in the sand to ensure Thorndyke stays buried. Keep those nails in his coffin.

Topaz would have been a good rep for GUN and the series needs a reporter character so Scarlet Garcia is a good pick.

I realize how weird I am, but those two I feel actually benefit the main continuity storytelling as a whole.

Well, if we can't reference Sonic X, then I contest that we must then invalidate both Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2. It's the only technically and morally correct course of action.

All I really have to say is that Sonic X (and all old Sonic media but especially the cartoons) remains a constant point of entry for new Sonic fans due to its prevalence on streaming and other outlets. Sonic X has a subbed blu-ray set that's apparently doing very well. All of the Dic shows are in print on home media with new releases as recently as last year. Tubi used SatAM to advertise their service with IRL adverts. A father I spoke to at Sonic Symphony talked about sharing the Archie and Fleetway comics he grew up on with his son and said son knew the names of every Freedom Fighter. Ignoring parts of your IP's enduring legacy for no substantial reason beyond individual disinterest (I know there's legal issues with stuff like Archie, Fleetway, and the OVA - none of the shows seem to have this problem as far as we're aware) isn't a good way to run a business. Other brands wish they had the popularity of the more niche parts of the Sonic fandom. The sooner they recognize that the better off everyone will be.

8 hours ago, Strickerx5 said:

Can I ask why though? Like, X was made under the eyes of ST so there shouldn't be anything in their either them or Sega have a problem with. I get not wanting to base an entire arc of the comics of the Metarex (I'm probably one of the biggest X apologist on this board and even I could do without that) but just flat out saying anything from the series is a no go is crazy.

This certainly ain't helping the feeling I've had for a while that Sega is being too heavy handed when it comes to letting people use legacy content in this series. Axe these stupid restrictions and let the writers work. Why does it always feel like getting anything from the 00s in this series is like pulling teeth? It's as if they're too afraid they may slip on something and make another 06. Shit is 18 years old and it still feels like a boogieman when decisions like this come down the pipe.

This would force SEGA to act like they care about their franchise, so it's not a shocker it's a no-go, sadly. Wasn't there some trouble between work unions and SEGA just recently, though? If they had people rewrite an arc as huge as the Metarex Saga, then they'd have to spend more money and pay more people, which clearly they don't want to do. That or you hit the nail on the head with the whole 06 drama. They might just be too scared of their fanbase.

Look, all I'm saying is Tails deserves to have his plant waifu back.

This is a little strange because Cosmo technically shows up in those Tails Tube vids. This would mean some event of the Metarex saga happened in the games Timeline.

Surprised to see nobody's mentioned Dark Sonic yet. That would be cool to see in some official capacity again IMO.

Poor little guy. Left single. Alone again. 

39 minutes ago, SomeOtherStranger said:

Surprised to see nobody's mentioned Dark Sonic yet. That would be cool to see in some official capacity again IMO.

Ian Flynn has already stated that he has no intention of ever using Dark Sonic, as he doesn't consider it a 'real' Sonic form. Granted, if Sega ever wanted him to do so they could easily force him to; however, that seems extremely unlikely.

What is strange is that Sonic Speed Simulator and IDW referenced Amy's swimsuit.

This is already a bigger deal than anything from Archie/SATAM.

What characters?

There are only 2...Topaz and Cosmo.

7 hours ago, StaticMania said:

What characters?

There are only 2...Topaz and Cosmo.

Scarlet Garcia is probably the one I want to use the most.

On 1/16/2024 at 6:20 PM, cosmichaos said:

This would force SEGA to act like they care about their franchise, so it's not a shocker it's a no-go, sadly.

I would argue this shows the exact opposite, though just not in a way that would make Sonic X fans happy. If they didn't care about managing the Sonic franchise, then the rules would not exists. It does, however, mean that they care more about the current vision of the series (building a larger audience off the back of Frontiers, Prime, and the Paramount films) much more than the extended legacy of the series' aging spin-offs.

Now, if you want to argue that SEGA may not care about Sonic X specifically... it's probably at least somewhat valid. They clearly don't see it as much of a moneymaker anymore considering you can just watch it in full on TMS's YouTube channel. Discotek recently released the two blu-ray sets, but Discotek is a rather small outlet that specializes in giving inexpensive, old-catalog, niche rereleases a quality coat of paint, so that should probably tell you how much the series is actually worth in the marketplace today. Further, considering that they've firmly killed the old human world/Sonic's world dichotomy in the current mythology, SEGA really isn't incentivized to play up old media built entirely on that.

As that pertains to the union busting behavior, it sucks and SEGA of America's executives deserve every consequence that the state of California can throw at them, but it's also irrelevant to whether or not they decide to implement Sonic X story elements. As described in the news story, this would be work Flynn would have done for IDW, not for SEGA directly. At most, Sonic Team would need to look over the script and give notes, but they would have done that regardless because they do that with the comic on the whole.

On 1/15/2024 at 9:36 PM, GX -The Spindash- said:

Justice for Bokkun.

I am absolutely heartbroken.

I reckon the reason for it is because the Materax are just meant to be part of the third and finale series for the anime and that it’s intended to be that way since they’re both dealt with from Sonic and Shadow in their super forms and backed up by the Sonic cannon and Cosmo of course.

And anyway, they weren’t in any appearance in the game series so they’re not canon anyways.

On 1/18/2024 at 12:50 AM, GX -The Spindash- said:

I would argue this shows the exact opposite, though just not in a way that would make Sonic X fans happy. If they didn't care about managing the Sonic franchise, then the rules would not exists. It does, however, mean that they care more about the current vision of the series (building a larger audience off the back of Frontiers, Prime, and the Paramount films) much more than the extended legacy of the series' aging spin-offs.

Now, if you want to argue that SEGA may not care about Sonic X specifically... it's probably at least somewhat valid. They clearly don't see it as much of a moneymaker anymore considering you can just watch it in full on TMS's YouTube channel. Discotek recently released the two blu-ray sets, but Discotek is a rather small outlet that specializes in giving inexpensive, old-catalog, niche rereleases a quality coat of paint, so that should probably tell you how much the series is actually worth in the marketplace today. Further, considering that they've firmly killed the old human world/Sonic's world dichotomy in the current mythology, SEGA really isn't incentivized to play up old media built entirely on that.

As that pertains to the union busting behavior, it sucks and SEGA of America's executives deserve every consequence that the state of California can throw at them, but it's also irrelevant to whether or not they decide to implement Sonic X story elements. As described in the news story, this would be work Flynn would have done for IDW, not for SEGA directly. At most, Sonic Team would need to look over the script and give notes, but they would have done that regardless because they do that with the comic on the whole.

Yeah that’s true, the anime is like almost two decades ago, so it’s no longer a money maker, even though the anime remains official.