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RDNexus Big the Cat

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In a perspective or orthographic view?

Totally frontal view, like this:

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Sonic Unleashed Model, as far as I know xD

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I'd prefer if it could be like this but like the previous one is OK too xD

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So yes, me and my crew started rummaging through the demo already. Needless to say, we need the classic model for Sonic Freerunner so... yeah. We ran into a good bit of things. First off,

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Guile's Theme Goes with Everything - Sonic Generations http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mhi2W3NmDoY

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SilentDoom Dr. Eggman

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So guys, after messing around in cheat engine I've found out that Classic Super Sonic is literally broken.

Here's whats going on.

Super Sonic's top speed is supposed to be 145. But it's always 30, Normal Classic Sonic's top speed. This is because there's a piece of code (fstp dword ptr [esi+0000053C] -- at 00DC1580) that constantly updates his speed to whatever value is on the top of the stack. This is usually 30 unless you have speed shoes.

I NOP'ed this piece of code and, sure enough, his top speed was boosted to 145 when I transformed to Super Sonic. The problem with NOPing this is that his speed stays at 145 after u transform, even after u run out of ring or restart the level.

I don't know if anybody has found this out yet, but i'm just now learning this.

I'll see what i can do about this.

Can you upload a vid showing how fast he should be? That isn't too much to ask is it?

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JingleBoy Blaze the Cat

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On the topic of hacking, this guy did an act swap for Classic and Modern, City Escape is the only level that Classic Sonic can actually complete:

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LoseR Shadow the Hedgehog

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I don't really support hacks, but these classic/modern swap hacks sure are fun to watch! :D

Would it be at all possible to rip Perfect Chaos' sound effects? >.>

Aren't they the same as the Adventure sound effects?...

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Gatestormer Shadow the Hedgehog

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Aren't they the same as the Adventure sound effects?...

I believe the cry he makes after being hit is new but the other is the same yes. I don't have the Adventure ones either though and with no idea how to get them. Since people are already digging around for models and shiz in Generations, I figured it wouldn't be too hard.

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Vec Shadow the Hedgehog

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Would it be at all possible to rip Perfect Chaos' sound effects? >.>

I want the voice clip of "Is something the matter?" from the Time Eater :(

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Aquaslash Dr. Eggman

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So guys, after messing around in cheat engine I've found out that Classic Super Sonic is literally broken.

Here's whats going on.

Super Sonic's top speed is supposed to be 145. But it's always 30, Normal Classic Sonic's top speed. This is because there's a piece of code (fstp dword ptr [esi+0000053C] -- at 00DC1580) that constantly updates his speed to whatever value is on the top of the stack. This is usually 30 unless you have speed shoes.

I NOP'ed this piece of code and, sure enough, his top speed was boosted to 145 when I transformed to Super Sonic. The problem with NOPing this is that his speed stays at 145 after u transform, even after u run out of ring or restart the level.

I don't know if anybody has found this out yet, but i'm just now learning this.

I'll see what i can do about this.

If that's the case then I guess we can be expecting a patch for the console versions.

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goku262002 Amy Rose

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On the topic of hacking, this guy did an act swap for Classic and Modern, City Escape is the only level that Classic Sonic can actually complete:

This guy did Green Hill better.

Would it be at all possible to rip Perfect Chaos' sound effects? >.>

I want the voice clip of "Is something the matter?" from the Time Eater sad.png

Guys just ask someone who has the PC version! I'm sure SEGA still encodes their SFX in .wav format like the other sonic games. This isn't like the console games where you have to convert from .adx first.

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Blue Blood Miles ‘Tails’ Prower

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I can't wait for someone to do Classic Sonic in Modern City Escape.

They've done everything already, including a hack to make all the Modern levels playable as Classic.
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Cheddly Mighty the Armadillo

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I can't wait for someone to do Classic Sonic in Modern City Escape.

They have.

Normally, this is the part where someone gives you a link, but I don't have that on me right now...

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Match Shadow the Hedgehog

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I can't wait for someone to do Classic Sonic in Modern City Escape.

This guy has done most of the levels, but some, he says, are more difficult than just swapping some files.

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RDNexus Big the Cat

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I've been watching videos of all cutscenes from SA1 onwards xD and I remembered something...

This is not of Sonic Generations, but could someone tell me if there was anytime extracted any of the World Maps that show up on Shadow The Hedgehog's cutscenes on G.U.N. HQ?

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Vec Shadow the Hedgehog

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Guys just ask someone who has the PC version! I'm sure SEGA still encodes their SFX in .wav format like the other sonic games. This isn't like the console games where you have to convert from .adx first.

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goku262002 Amy Rose

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Uhm...ok, that's why we were just asking here, because there's a high chance of people owning that version here

I'd try the PC version topic as well.

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XylemTube Ray the Flying Squirrel

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Can you upload a vid showing how fast he should be? That isn't too much to ask is it?

Here ya go.

What think?

EDIT: srry it took so long. =/

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Chaos Warp Amy Rose

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Here ya go.

What think?

EDIT: srry it took so long. =/

That's how it should have been (minus the shield) in the game!

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G.M.M. Ray the Flying Squirrel

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OMG!!! Sweet!!! Is that for PC? If so, when is a patch coming?

Yes, it is for pc, but I'm pretty sure the speed was just gained by spindashing everytime super sonic stopped, so this isn't a patch mellow.png

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XylemTube Ray the Flying Squirrel

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In this video, Super's top speed was set to 300, more than twice that of his should-be 145, and his running acceleration was set to 24. Normal Sonic's top speed is 30, while his acceleration is 7.

His spidash remains unchanged... i should fix that lol.

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RDNexus Big the Cat

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Yeah, I read somewhere that Classic Super Sonic may be like that because his values wouldn't change after reverting back to Sonic if the rings reached 0 during the level. Maybe a bug or something?

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SilentDoom Dr. Eggman

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MAKIN' PROGRESS smile.png

Unlike my last video, his speed actually changes when he transforms, as demonstrated in the video.

Right it's official. Sega and Sonic Team need to hire you momentarily so you can patch Super Sonic and make him not suck. Either that or some employees at Sega can just use their brains and patch him themselves.

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