Hate Groups on the Rise in US

[Match]

Still its navie to think that another WWIII won't happen regardless of these hate groups.

What makes you say that?

[Stacy]

What makes you say that?

Human nature.

[Mono]

...like a rhetoric that advocates medieval policies to scare and pacify people. No wonder arabian royality goes hand in hand with them. Glenn Becks reaction to the arabian spring showed us that these people clearly ain't no humanists.

The Tea Party is Musolinis wet-dream come true. No doubt about it.

Then what is Occupy Wall Street?

Edited March 10, 2012 by Jay Rockman

[Mono]

edit: nevermind

Edited March 10, 2012 by Jay Rockman

[Tornado]

One of maybe hundreds of protest groups in the US against social injustice and hate since the Haymarket Massacre in 1886.

Yeah, because being basically the same thing as the Tea Party except for who they blame totally makes one a hate group and the other out to correct "social injustice."

[Emmett L. Brown]

Yeah, because being basically the same thing as the Tea Party except for who they blame totally makes one a hate group and the other out to correct "social injustice."

Well said. The term "hate group" is a bit too general, and excessive generalisation is exactly what those groups advocate - which is bad. I may be generalising when I say those groups generalise so much it's harmful to society as a whole, but dangit that's my view and I'm standing up for it.

Seriously though, putting the groups that oppose a political system like capitalism or socialism in the same boat as those who condemn people for being born a certain skin colour or gender is very narrow-minded. There's no perfect political system, and it's okay criticise and even outright oppose them - that's freedom of opinion and expression for ya - but racism, sexism bigotry and oppression is a whole different level, and definitely something to worry about and focus on combating.

I don't like the Tea Party, but they've got a right to stand for what they believe in. Groups like the Ku Klux Klan, on the other hand, should be stopped.

Edited March 10, 2012 by Grumpy Old Guy

[Mono]

The KKK have a right to protest/have marches. With freedom of speech you can't pick one group that can say anything and another one that needs to be stopped. If you're going to stop them you do so with your free speech.

[turbojet]

How in the hell are Black Separatists a Hate Group?

The only way I can imagine that they are one is that the ones calling for it are white supremacists demanding that all people of African descent go back to Africa.

[Emmett L. Brown]

The KKK have a right to protest/have marches. With freedom of speech you can't pick one group that can say anything and another one that needs to be stopped. If you're going to stop them you do so with your free speech.

Freedom of speech isn't unlimited. Encouraging violence against specific ethnicities, for example, is not covered by freedom of speech. If you're telling people to break the law, then you're breaking the law in doing so.

Groups founded on racist principles need to be stopped, but don't get me wrong: If they're not breaking any laws, then you don't need the law to stop them. Just as you said, use your own freedom of speech to further understanding and education.

[Mono]

Freedom of speech is unlimited. There is no law anywhere that limits freedom of speech.

edit: and just to make it clear to some people, I'm just supporting the KKK's right of free speech, I'm in no way endorsing what they do, which is pure evil.

Edited March 10, 2012 by Jay Rockman

[Emmett L. Brown]

Freedom of speech is unlimited. There is no law anywhere that limits freedom of speech.

[Axl.EXE]

Provided that speech doesn't violate copyright claims, indicate terrorist ties, intelligence leaks, public defamation, slander, violation of confidence trust, incite riots, and so on...

This is one of those somewhat-obscure parts of the Constitution whose obscurity is the reason why groups like the KKK still exist. Or, rather, the lack of enforcement of the above. If it was better enforced, the Klan would find itself being targeted by people who are a hell of a lot better at killing than those who normally deal with them.

Of course, like all laws, it can cause some problems when abused. But targeting the KKK isn't one of them.

Edited March 13, 2012 by Axl