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RUMOR: Sonic Generations-Related Announcement Coming Soon (UPDATE: State of Play Confirmed)


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2 hours ago, JezMM said:

Weird way to interpret their post, they were simply saying that in their imagination, a Frontiers level could be a standard A to B Sonic level based off the open zone environments.  They never said a linear level can't have branching paths or that linear levels were bad?

Sorry, typically in my experience with the fandom (outside of the sonic stadium) this is the leading opinion on "Meta-Era games" (hate that term) and I've honestly gotten sick of it. (No offense to anyone)

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Do you think Project Unleashed will be ported over to the Generations remaster if it's going to be made in Hedgehog Engine 2?

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Not gonna lie, if we're truly getting a Generations remaster... Well, I'll still look forward to it. But why Generations instead of the Adventure games and/or Unleashed?

Fans have been requesting remakes for those games for years, much more so than Generations from what I've seen. And those three games could seriously use the remaster treatment: Adventure 1 and Adventure 2's respective graphics haven't aged the best and they could use some gameplay tune-ups (among other things), while Unleashed isn't readily accessible outside of Xbox Series S and could also use some QoL improvements. Generations only really needs to be ported to modern consoles, but at least it's on PC whereas Unleashed isn't.

Colors Ultimate I could understand being necessary since Colors was a Wii exclusive, so the game had to be remade to work on PC and modern consoles. But Generations...? I'm sorry, it just feels like remastering a game that doesn't really need it over the games that do need remastering, and are highly requested (if not the top requests) by fans.

Again, I'll still look forward to a Generation remaster and certainly play it if it proves good. This is just my thoughts on this news.

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1 hour ago, Kaotic Kanine said:

Not gonna lie, if we're truly getting a Generations remaster... Well, I'll still look forward to it. But why Generations instead of the Adventure games and/or Unleashed?

Fans have been requesting remakes for those games for years, much more so than Generations from what I've seen. And those three games could seriously use the remaster treatment: Adventure 1 and Adventure 2's respective graphics haven't aged the best and they could use some gameplay tune-ups (among other things), while Unleashed isn't readily accessible outside of Xbox Series S and could also use some QoL improvements. Generations only really needs to be ported to modern consoles, but at least it's on PC whereas Unleashed isn't.

Colors Ultimate I could understand being necessary since Colors was a Wii exclusive, so the game had to be remade to work on PC and modern consoles. But Generations...? I'm sorry, it just feels like remastering a game that doesn't really need it over the games that do need remastering, and are highly requested (if not the top requests) by fans.

Again, I'll still look forward to a Generation remaster and certainly play it if it proves good. This is just my thoughts on this news.

Because "Fans" are not who these remasters are for. They're to put another $60 box on the shelves for younger players who haven't experienced them yet. They're perfect for dry periods because to the fans that got into Sonic with the movies it's basically like getting a new game. No obvious mechanical fuckups either unlike SA1/2/Unleashed so it'll get decent reviews with minimal effort short of some catastrophic fuck up ala Colors Ultimate.

 

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41 minutes ago, Kaotic Kanine said:

Generations only really needs to be ported to modern consoles

You just about answered your own question here. The Adventure games and Unleashed are three quarters crap and would need major changes to be palatable to a mainstream audience. Generations by comparison likely needs far less work done for a rerelease/remaster, and is therefore cheaper for Sega to produce.

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Y'know, I wonder why they'd choose the State of Play to announce it and not the next Nintendo Direct. If I were them, I'd let the Nintendo audience know firsthand they're finally getting the chance to play console Generations after 13 years. But I guess choosing Sony gives them a better headstart, even when it's clear the Direct isn't that far off. 

Besides, they might be saving their Sonic spotlight for the Paris Olympics reveal, who knows.

 

 

Another thought: Generations was originally made for Sonic's 20th Anniversary, and in about four days, Sonic 3 will be turning 30. So do you think that maybe... they'll do something special for Knuckles this time?

 

 

...Heh, of course not

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2 minutes ago, Supah Berry said:

Besides, they might be saving their Sonic spotlight for the Paris Olympics reveal, who knows.

I think if there was an Olympics tie-in, it would've been revealed by now.

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55 minutes ago, MGA_Gamer said:

I think if there was an Olympics tie-in, it would've been revealed by now.

The Olympics series is pretty much dead at this point. 

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People are either panic buying in worry that Sega is going to delisted it or it's actually about to be delisted.

1 hour ago, Supah Berry said:

Y'know, I wonder why they'd choose the State of Play to announce it and not the next Nintendo Direct. If I were them, I'd let the Nintendo audience know firsthand they're finally getting the chance to play console Generations after 13 years. But I guess choosing Sony gives them a better headstart, even when it's clear the Direct isn't that far off. 

 

 

2 hours ago, Kaotic Kanine said:

Not gonna lie, if we're truly getting a Generations remaster... Well, I'll still look forward to it. But why Generations instead of the Adventure games and/or Unleashed?

Because Generations is already on Windows so most of the work of getting it on modern consoles is already done. In comparison to the Adventure games, which would actually need to be remade to get them up to some standard of quality, "remastering" Sonic Generations could basically amount to "run at 4K @ 60FPS" and the game would be perfectly acceptable by 2024 standards. Unleashed would be more desirable since it's never had a PC port and it's trapped on PS3 for people who don't want an Xbox, but Unleashed also has a much worse reputation so it is what it is.

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So, with nowt announced at 11.58pm gmt,  almost 2hrs after the start of the event...I assume this rumour was just a load of BS?? 

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6 minutes ago, castell-neath said:

So, with nowt announced at 11.58pm gmt,  almost 2hrs after the start of the event...I assume this rumour was just a load of BS?? 

No you're just getting your days mixed up.

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18 hours ago, Endoian said:

I would like them to remaster Sonic Generations, It's one of my favorite games and seeing it on next-gen consoles would be great, but I would also like to see other games remastered like Sonic adventures 1 and 2, it sound incredible.

By next-gen, do you mean PS5 or PS6? Since it has backwards compatibility (and 60FPS with FPS boost), it seems like Xbox doesn't need it. The graphics are already impressive and hold up a decade later.

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So, if this turns out true, let's just hope Sega learned from their mistakes with Sonic Colors Ultimate and made sure this was a better made game. Now, why would this be like gaining weight? (No offense to anyone in advance) It would be because it's a fat chance.

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6 hours ago, Sonic Blast said:

I have a feeling this won't be what people think. Probably not a Generations remaster but we shall see.

What do you think it'll be?

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8 hours ago, Tornado said:

Just fix the bugs in the Steam version and port that, Sega. Thanks. None of that additional crap you dumped on top of with Colours, which Generations doesn't need in the first place. This is a game from deep into the PS360 generation where already so long as a game had a good art style it looks basically the same as a game as today (just at a lower resolution and a shittier framerate).

It's a shame too, because I think there are a couple of things that could had been added to the Colors' remasters that would had made it a meaningful update or remaster. But it's so obvious that whoever was in charge did not want to spend any resources to make any meaningful additions or changes. I'm not as big on Colors as I was when it came out I would still say it got done dirty by how basic it was, even before you get into the technical incompetence of that port.

So with that in mind (as well as also seeing how Origins was also mismanaged) I don't blame people making memes about a "remastered" Generations re-release having stuff like completely FUBAR'd lighting among other things. Sega themselves has set the bar that low.

8 hours ago, JezMM said:

I think if the weird-ass and challenging level design of the Frontiers DLC is anything to go by, there's no reason to assume added levels would be naff, it just entirely depends on who is handling them.  We've never really had a 3D Sonic port/remaster with added levels in anything close to recency to really give any inkling.

I myself haven't played Frontiers, so I can't claim authority on comprehensive comparisons on Frontiers' level design to that of Generations. But I get the impression that regardless, Kishimoto and company's attitudes to design would prevail on the topic of making new levels for Generations. Which to me evokes the usual stuff that we've seen from their past gameography (Frontiers, Forces, Lost World, Colors) instead of anything resembling the level design philosophy of Generations or Unleashed.

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I’ll take who asked for this for $500 alex

Sega have some weird love boner for their early 2010s games so they will never touch unleashed, and heroes/adventure would need a ground up rebuild so its placed in the “too much money and effort” basket.

Generations on the other hand is easy - the game runs at 4K at 60fps on pc with minimal effort so the work is already cut out for whoever they outsource to do this remaster. I’m not surprised why they picked it even if I think half the games boring.

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oh boi, can't wait to play through green hill, chemical plant and sky sanctuary again. :'D

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3 hours ago, Lanmanna said:

What do you think it'll be?

Nvm, I've changed my mind. It will probably be a low effort port.

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3 hours ago, Lanmanna said:

¿Por próxima generación te refieres a PS5 o PS6? Dado que tiene compatibilidad con versiones anteriores (y 60 FPS con aumento de FPS), parece que Xbox no lo necesita. Los gráficos ya son impresionantes y se mantienen una década después.

I am referring to the current consoles, Xbox one series X and S, PS5 and Nintendo Switch

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The 3DS version wasn't great, but it did have a few nice things.

-Water Palace was solid, it had some interesting gimmicks such as the balancing platforms floating on water, and the bubble machine thing... the big badnik at the end of the classic level was interesting.

-The Big Arm bossfight was great, Biolizard was ok maybe?

-The "Got Ring?" airship working as a bumper in Radical Highway was neat too, but the level wasn't much fun sadly.

-The Time Eater bossfight was slightly better done compared to the HD version.

I don't think there was enough worthy content to justify a port of the entire 3DS game inside of this rumored remaster; I think it would be better to just "port" (or remake completely) the good stuff from it instead (basically just Big Arm and Water Palace).

Regardless, I'm not expecting the 3DS version to be considered at all, they will probably just ignore it.

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The 3DS version reviewed pretty poorly, and as I recall was rumoured to have been a bit of a rush job; I don't recall enjoying it particularly and noticed a lot of sloppy cut corners.  I think the only way we're seeing that again is in some kind of wider collection of the handheld games, and that's unlikely to be on the horizon anytime soon.

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Seeing Sonic Generations gets remaster made me feel really excited happen while bit ew bringing same developer's work on Sonic Colors remaster, few years hope is great graphics needed be closer too original and maybe online multi player new system being in Sonic Generations remaster.

 

 

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I’m so confused, is this still a Sonic Generations remaster or something else entirely?

Shadow was such a minuscule part of Generations that I just find it weird he’d be elevated to headliner in that game of all things 

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