What were the most controversial moments for you in the Sonic Comics?

[Rabbitearsblog]

So, what were some moments in the Sonic the Hedgehog comics that you thought was very controversial?  It can be moments from the Archie Comics, Sonic the Comic or IDW.

For me, I have two different examples.  The first example is the infamous slap scene from the Archie Sonic comics.  This moment was controversial to me because it showed Sally in a negative light and many fans haven't forgotten about this moment.

Another moment is from the IDW Comics and it's of course, Shadow's portrayal throughout the whole series, although that one particular moment in the Metal Virus arc is what many people remembered.

[Spagonia Bowl]

Not really a moment, but I really didn't like Rouge's characterization in the Archie series, specifically "Pre-Super Genesis Wave." The way she was written, it made her really unlikable at times. Her relationship with Knuckles was more manipulation on her end, rather than the flirty banter from the games.

Not only that, her behavior even bordered on being just straight up evil. An example would be when she was willing to take a Sol Emerald for herself, despite knowing full well that doing so would put the Sol Dimension at risk. It was only until Shadow and Omega forced her to stand down that she reluctantly gave up. 

For me at least, this all felt out of character for her. Rouge does do some morally questionable things and she has her own agendas, but putting someone's own world in potential danger just for an emerald feels like a line that even she wouldn't cross in the games. But then again, she did let Eggman blow up half the moon in SA2, despite spying on him and Shadow for the government, so maybe it's not too out of left field for her. 

Thankfully, her characterization improved "Post-Super Genesis Wave", with her relationship with Knuckles being way less manipulative and more in-line with the games, as well as being a lot more caring towards her allies. Rouge hasn't appeared a lot in IDW, but she's more or less the Rouge we know and love. Only complaint I have is that I wish she had more interactions with Knuckles. 

[fevasporks]

Shadow the Hedgehog has been a complex and divisive character in the Sonic franchise, and his portrayal in the IDW Comics has stirred some controversy. Some fans have argued that his character was written inconsistently or too one-dimensionally, focusing too much on his edgier, anti-hero side and not enough on his more nuanced aspects. The particular moment you mentioned from the Metal Virus arc might be when Shadow refused to help Sonic during a crisis, Eu realmente adoro o fortune tiger, esse jogo de casino online é perfeito https://fortunetiger.casino/ which was seen as a stark departure from his previous character development.

Edited Thursday at 11:58 AM by fevasporks

[Rabbitearsblog]

7 hours ago, fevasporks said:

Shadow the Hedgehog has been a complex and divisive character in the Sonic franchise, and his portrayal in the IDW Comics has stirred some controversy. Some fans have argued that his character was written inconsistently or too one-dimensionally, focusing too much on his edgier, anti-hero side and not enough on his more nuanced aspects. The particular moment you mentioned from the Metal Virus arc might be when Shadow refused to help Sonic during a crisis, which was seen as a stark departure from his previous character development.

Yeah. I don't know why SEGA's mandates on the character is so strict.

[Phoenix]

I feel Sega learned all the wrong lessons from Penders. The actual lesson is that you should save your original contract somewhere safe. It's not that character development is banned.

[Rabbitearsblog]

1 hour ago, Phoenix said:

I feel Sega learned all the wrong lessons from Penders. The actual lesson is that you should save your original contract somewhere safe. It's not that character development is banned.

I agree.  I think that SEGA should let the writers write the characters the way they want to.  Just let the writers know that the characters and the stories can be used by SEGA for the games or any other part of the franchise they want to and to create contracts that explains all that.  Also, as you said, SEGA should really keep the contracts safe, so that way, they wouldn't have the same problems that they had with Penders.

[Spagonia Bowl]

14 hours ago, Rabbitearsblog said:

SEGA should really keep the contracts safe, so that way, they wouldn't have the same problems that they had with Penders.

If I remember correctly, that was more of an issue with Archie rather than SEGA. 

[Leebo4]

I think the IDW characterisation issues with shadow is a bit too overblown and yeah the slap is a bad but to think that what should blow it out of the water was the reworded Holocaust poem being used

[Rabbitearsblog]

10 hours ago, Leebo4 said:

I think the IDW characterisation issues with shadow is a bit too overblown and yeah the slap is a bad but to think that what should blow it out of the water was the reworded Holocaust poem being used

Oh yeah!  I forgot about the Holocaust reference.

[Phoenix]

1 hour ago, Rabbitearsblog said:

Oh yeah!  I forgot about the Holocaust reference.

What's all this now?

[Rabbitearsblog]

1 hour ago, Phoenix said:

What's all this now?

So, Ken Penders wrote a Holocaust statement in the Knuckles the Echidna comic book series which goes something like this:

[Phoenix]

Yikes!

[Guergy]

The infamous Super Genesis Wave. 

[Promethean0416]

StH: #150 and some of the "reasoning" on certain parts of the story...

[castell-neath]

STC droppong the game design of Eggman to adopt the crappy AOSTH design but making him more far evil than buffoon type in the show so its pretty at odds with the cartoon.

As a result of this decision, Seeing the AOSTH design eggman in the S3&K adaption they did in the comic is just so, so frustrating and just wrong. It still grates on me 30 years later. 

Edited October 27 by castell-neath

[SKSpawn]

On 10/27/2023 at 6:17 AM, castell-neath said:

STC droppong the game design of Eggman to adopt the crappy AOSTH design but making him more far evil than buffoon type in the show so its pretty at odds with the cartoon.

As a result of this decision, Seeing the AOSTH design eggman in the S3&K adaption they did in the comic is just so, so frustrating and just wrong. It still grates on me 30 years later. 

Yeah, I almost understood why they did this at the time since the cartoon was airing but it was weird that they stuck with it, and that they never switched to the SatAM/Sonic Underground look. 

[Guergy]

Geoffrey revealing himself to be loyal to Naugus. I really liked him as a good guy and a "rival" to Sonic.

[Rabbitearsblog]

5 hours ago, Guergy said:

Geoffrey revealing himself to be loyal to Naugus. I really liked him as a good guy and a "rival" to Sonic.

I will admit that moment was a bit odd since that was never established ever since Geoffrey was first introduced in the comics.

[Guergy]

Me too. I really liked Geoffrey as a good guy or at least an anti-hero who occasionally antagonized Sonic as well as vice versa. 

[Promethean0416]

On 10/12/2023 at 10:30 PM, Rabbitearsblog said:

So, Ken Penders wrote a Holocaust statement in the Knuckles the Echidna comic book series which goes something like this:

I believe that is the FDR quote. This was the lifted poem in question:

[Guergy]

Penders had some interesting ideas but really needed an editor to refine or veto them. 

[Maple Syrup]

 All I can say is...Ken Penders.

[LegoNess]

Originally, I was going to say something about Sonic's characterization in Sonic the Comic, but then I remembered this:

This honestly reads more like fanfiction than an official product.