Ummm guys did you forget about the Sonic 20th anniversary title? maybe Sonic team at hard work right now and gave the duty to Dimps, yes that was a bad exuse but still Dimps has done wonders with Sonic games can we just give the chance they deserve ( oh and they deserve it more than Sonic team).

Wait, wait, so because Sega didn’t intend to show footage for, we’re arbitrarily guessing, a two-month period, that means that when they did show footage it would be *of this exact build with no changes in two months?*

Also, it’s mentioned that they should by now be at the stage where they’re working to fix bugs and polish things. Well, *yeah*. That’s.. probably why they have a playable alpha build at all. Uh.

I gotta agree with N. Harmonik. You can’t dispute the facts, and the facts show that Dimps has done a good job on Sonic games, better even than Sonic Team. And I don’t wanna piss any fans off that like Sonic Team’s games, but I think I can be safe by asking when the last time they ever made a Sonic game that scored 10/10 by IGN? Far as I’m concerned, if it was up to me, I’d choose Dimps to do this game over Sonic Team any day.

@nuckles87:

However, there are many things to consider that make this video look like it’s from a fairly recent build. For one, it does feature an ESRB rating, although that could just be them anticipating what rating they’re going to get. For two, was this video not leaked alongside 1080p screenshots? That’s high quality stuff. That’s not something someone doing a casual leak creates on his own to show off. That’s something stolen straight from Sega. I wouldn’t doubt we see those exact same screenshots featured on the website fairly soon.

And I’m sure to them the game does not look extremely buggy. The jump is probably exactly how they designed it to look. Even standing on that hill, that was possible in old Sonic games as well. He was likely holding right to move forward, but the running was being countered by gravity standing on the hill in the position. He then proceeds to slowly fall as he awkwardly tries to run up parts of the hill with no momentum. The only thing that really looked buggy was when he was using the spring to go up into that loop, and kept hitting the ceiling (although there is a chance that could be intentional). In any case, that’d be a rather small fix.

Completely changing the physics of jumping, as well as the animation for it, is not such a small fix, and is not something they would have in their development plans. It’s probably coming right along as intended, unless this truly is a very old build, although it all around looks too great to be that old.

@Matt:

Completely changing jumping physics and animations is much more than fixing small bugs and polishing the game.

Accordingly, when they finally do show footage I don’t think things will be changed very much, as this looks like a pretty recent build. When they show the footage and fans once again lash out on the game for the wonky jump physics, it’ll already be far too late to change something so major.

All these people who act like they know all about how you develop video games… where did you learn all this information? Who says that changing the jumping is really something that cannot be fixed in 3 months time? I think it’s realistic even if this is a recent build to fix that problem, and considering none of Dimps other games have that problem then I highly doubt it’s going to wind up in the final game.

@Mit I didn’t say Dimps thinks it’s a problem. But I do. I’ve played games before with the “floaty” jumps and it’s not as responsive as games without that. Given than I can’t think of any Sonic game with that problem really, especially one made by Dimps… I’d say that it’s an issue they’ll fix. Otherwise I think it’s a problem that could really hurt the game. Controls are a big problem if they aren’t tight, especially something that seems as unimportant as jumping.

… realistically it’s entirely possible that this video was leaked on purpose and then covered up so they could gain general opinions from the public on the progress so far without it seeming like they messed up if you don’t like it.

@Brianzilla2004

Actually, you seem to be exactly like most Sonic fans: criticizing the games to no end before they’re released, buying them, playing them, and then proceeding to attack them some more. Are you honestly going to tell me that you’re not going to buy this game? I doubt it.

“For the first time, I feel Sonic’s star fading. Perhaps there never will be a good Sonic game again.”

Right. Like I’ve never heard that before. >_> You’re dissing the last decade of 2D Sonic and the essence of all modern Sonic games (what you call “adrenaline-pumping high-speed bullshit”) yet only now you’re saying this? Who are you kidding?

@nuckles87: I’m mostly going off of previous games that were seen in alpha builds, had complaints from fans/gamers about rather major things, and did not have their problems fixed before the game was shipped, if at all. Happens almost every time. It just seems like at that stage in development, the developers already have what they want nailed down. Jump physics was probably one of the first things they designed, and accordingly developed, as it’s a rather base element to the game, that can even be important to further level and game design. They probably do not now look at it and go, “this is a problem.”

Continually springing into an invisible ceiling trying to get into a loop? Yes, that’s a bug, that’s something they’ll fix. The entire jumping physics look off? Not so much. I could see the animation changing between now and release, I don’t know about tweaking the physics, especially with how major that can be in a fast, momentum-based gameplay engine.